Posted on Sep 11, 2021
SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres
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Please do not comment if you are still serving in the Military in some capacity; a/o where potentially your job, livelihood, or position could be at risk.
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PO1 John Crafton
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If you're going for a related degree, like sociology, it makes sense to spend some time learning about this. It's no more valid than other ideas, and far less valid than many; however, the study of it has its merits.
That said, its core concepts and any forming from that core should remain exactly where they started. They have no place in leadership courses, and they should most certainly not be brought into regular military instruction.
As a thought experiment, it's fine. Unfortunately, it's being taken beyond that. Application of CRT concepts into things such as engineering, mathematics, electronics, etc. simply doesn't belong. I see CRT advocates bringing CRT concepts into general college instruction as a negative. Bringing it into military instruction is even worse.
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SPC Brian Pritchard/Hall
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Hell no!
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Sgt Judy Leonard
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It is so amazing that white men who have never walked in the shoes of other men and women should know what it’s like to be another race or gender
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SSgt Joseph Baptist - Just going on all the bashing here about everyone else that is not a white man.
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Sgt Judy Leonard
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You must be a democrat Whatever you want to call me that’s your choice. But I attacked no one I’m just stating fact.
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MSG Kenny Lane
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I served 34 ½ years and never considered RACE ir sex a issue. Do you job and therefore will won't have any issues. Don't do your job we got issues.
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I’m retired, grew up in the 50’s and through the turbulent 60’s. I was fortunate, I didn’t experience racism until I was an adult, as a civilian and especially the military. I was EO trained, I was the EOL for my unit. I taught an EO class. I’m an activist for what’s right. I think everyone should know who they are and where their ancestors came from, it’s really fun learning about other ethnicities and cultures. I have two ideas. 1. Let’s all have our blood drawn and place the vial in a big basket. Then see if anyone can pick their blood. 2. This one is messy, if we could take our skin off like we do our clothes what would we look like besides a bloody mess, We’d look the same, why because WE ARE ALL THE SAME. We are conceived the same way, we’re born the same way, we get the same diseases and we die the same. So what is the problem, someone please tell me? WHY DO YOU HATE someone because of the color of their skin, religious choice, their ethnicity, sexual orientation? I’d love to hear your answers.
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I’m retired, grew up in the 50’s and thru the turbulent 60’s. I was fortunate, I never experienced racism until I was an adult. Some as a civilian but also while on active duty. I am an activist for what’s right. I think every human being needs to know where they came came. Then they can know where they’re going. I was the EOL for my unit. I taught an EO class. I have two ideas. Let’s have everyone have their blood drawn, place the vial in a big basket and see f you can pick out your blood. The other one is if we could all take our skin off like we do our clothes what would we look like, beside a bloody mess but the point being WE’RE ALL THE SAME. We are conceived the same, born the same, get the same diseases and die the same. So what’s the problem? Someone please tell me.
PO1 Kathleen White
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It has to start somewhere... in early education! Doesn’t hurt as a refresher.
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MSG Jeremy Jiron
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I am 6 generations of Native American and Hispanic culture who has served this great nation in the armed forces. CRT has no place in the war fighting mindset of our military. It is a theory. It’s not policy, it’s an idea based on one sided opinions of a weak non serving non military person. The melting pot of America is the military. CRT is ripping the melting pot idea of the men and women of the military. It’s a socialist idea that needs to end with strong leaders saying enough is enough. It’s time to stand up to these “theories” because it doesn’t hone the edge of the warfighter, nor does it do anything for a family of all colors who wear one uniform under the red white and blue.
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SP5 Don Armstrong
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I grew up as a hated White Protestant in a White Irish Catholic neighborhood. A fellow Protestant was killed for being in the wrong place. One of my best friends growing up was a Black kid that was the son of my father's boss. I still remember my father and his father smiling as we spend time together laughing and enjoying life. That ended the day a group of Blacks in his neighborhood saw us together. They gathered surrounded us and they demanded to know what I was doing with him. He said "He is my best friend." The group of Black kids then started yelling at me FWMF. It was the first time in my life but not the last to be called that. They then told him "Blacks don't have White friends". The next week I saw him he had been beaten to a pulp by the Blacks and told "You will get worse if we see you with him". He was crying told me I could never see him.

Now in my basic training at Ft Gordon Ga in late 1966 we had so many troops in training that one half of my training company spent our entire time living in a groups of 12 tents with 24 troops per tent. My tent was 1/3 Black , 1/3 Puerto Ricans and 1/3 White. A lot of old wives tales went away real fast especially when one of the White guys hung like a horse was spotted by the Black guys. We had a lot of laughs.

I then did a year at Ft Bragg and I had several episodes of White Southerners getting drunk and trying to outright kill me. As one of the Black guys said "I ain't never seen hate like that." I pointed out that he could not control the fact that he was born Black but it was my fault that some Grand daddy of his was killed by Yankees and it was my fault as a Yankee that he was free.

In Nam I was a door gunner in the Central Highlands and at one bad LZ I spotted a guy that I had been in Basic with. He was now a medic and he and another Black medic were working as fast as they could because they had a lot of dead and wounded. We were flying race tracks between Enari , The Oasis . Kontum and Dak To then back to the Evac in Pleiku and the mortuary then start over. In Bound was Bags , Caps , Rats and Cherries and out bound was bags and bleeders. I tried as hard as I could to get everyone back alive. A couple weeks later I got to have a beer with both of the medics. As we sat there in Pleiku having our beer a Red Neck went after me for being a Yankee drinking with a Black. Again not the first time it happened. Several months later I had been transferred to a Cav unit in the Delta working with the 9th at Bear Cat and Then Dong Tam. At Dong Tam I got one chance to go to the EM club. It was divided by Blacks on one side and Whites on the other. In the middle was those that got along. The Black medic had also been transferred and he saw me and we did the DAP as we laughed. The nasty Blacks wanted to know why he did that with me and he talked about me trying to save everyone I could. They yelled at him "Whites don't do the DAP". Many of the Blacks still had nothing to do with me but some did change their attitude. At Bear Cat I hwas sent over to Long THan North for perimeter guard for a night. Four Blacks showed up assigned to my bunker. They proceded to start off with FWMF and it went downhill from there. The senior Black took first watch and I had the second. I woke up the next Black guy and he bitched at me. Just after I nodded off when I sensed something and I woke to someone in the door of the bunker. Everyone as asleep and I yelled. The other guys woke up and the Black guy that had watch after me claimed I never woke him up. Then they all went to sleep and I kept watch. The next morning we found out that 3 guys in two bunkers over were dead and had been killed by sappers. I just looked at the idiots that had been in my bunker and then went back to my unit.

After I left the service I worked in the Phone Company in Boston during the school bussing riots. We had 14 White guys and about 50 Black guys in that garage. I got along great with several of the Black guys that were also Nam Vets. One of the Black Guys that I worked with was the 2nd Black hired by the phone company and he and I got along great. He did not believe in the "brother" stuff. One day many of the Black guys wanted the day off because it was Crispus Attaucks day. A White foreman asked "Who is he" and got zero response. I spoke up and said "He was a Black Freeman that was killed in the Boston Massacre" Again it was silence and then one Black guy said "It's a sad statement of fact that the only person that knows Black history is a White guy.

So fast forward multiple years and I'm working in Voice , Data and Communications in technical support out an office in Northern Virginia doing things like the secure system at the White House , The International Monetary fund , The Russel Senate office building , most of the Fortune 500 companies and even a Submarine support vessel in a Loch in Scotland. If I was in the office and could take a break I would hit the bar at a TGI Fridays. One of the Black guys I worked with had worked together for years. We would get a beer and laugh about the things we had seen and done. The trouble was the super brothers in the office would walk into the bar and very loudly yell out at my buddy "Hey look it's Uncle Tom hanging with his White masters".

My opinion is CRT is BS. By the way interesting story from the BBC about slavery in Africa, Blacks capturing Blacks to be sold as slaves. It did not stop until 1955
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53444752
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COL Jim Lincoln
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the basis for CRT starts with the rule that if you are white,you are a racist,were born that way and you CANT CHANGE IT. If you are black,you have been discriminated against your whole life by whites,who dominate as white supremacists. And systematic racism dominates all aspects of American life, Yes as a USMA grad,CRT concepts (all evade the issue by saying we teach no CRT classes) are taught there and all service academies,despite denial by the academies. All of this is consistent with the demanded culture changes,some call woke that is sweeping all level of America, and sharply dividing the country.
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