Posted on Mar 1, 2016
Should we remove combat patches to be sensitive to those who don't have them?
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"(Unit Name withheld) BCT ordered to remove combat patches during training at Fort NoMatter so the ones without them don't get hurt feelings.
Reason? "The unit just returned from Afghanistan and almost everyone has a patch but the large influx of new soldiers are E1 and E2s that have never deployed and they are saying they are left out because they don't have a patch."
Reason? "The unit just returned from Afghanistan and almost everyone has a patch but the large influx of new soldiers are E1 and E2s that have never deployed and they are saying they are left out because they don't have a patch."
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So I'm supposed to take off something that I have earned because some newbie is butthurt? Really? That's like saying you can't wear your Airborne badge, or rank because not everyone has it. If you earned it, you should be able to wear it, regardless of other people's insecurities.
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Don't buy into this guys! This is a former Ranger battalion colonel getting his guys to go sterile like the regt does. I've talked to people in the know and this is NOT what it appears. It's not PC crap, it's a commander getting his guys to work together and let their actions speak louder than badges. This is only in the field not garrison.
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MSG Wally Carmichael
SSG Lon Watson, Thanks for your comments. What do you know about this one at 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 4th ID?
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/more-combat-patches-and-badges-removed-what-message-is-this-sending
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/more-combat-patches-and-badges-removed-what-message-is-this-sending
More Combat Patches and Badges, Removed? What message is this sending? | RallyPoint
You've seen my other post about 3rd BCT 101st making the decision to remove combat patches in training. 3rd BCT is not the only command doing this. What are they thinking? http://www.ijreview.com/2016/03/551421-soldiers-furious-after-what-army-combat-teams-are-making-them-take-off-their-uniforms/?
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Why penalize the warrior morale? Just because the newby Soldier can't deploy doesn't mean he or she won't in the near future. If it upsets them - let them cry. They'll need a lot more toughening up if that is causing them so much pain...
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Don't buy into this guys! This is a former Ranger battalion colonel getting his guys to go sterile like the regt does. I've talked to people in the know and this is NOT what it appears. It's not PC crap, it's a commander getting his guys to work together and let their actions speak louder than badges. This is only in the field not garrison.
Don't buy into this guys! This is a former Ranger battalion colonel getting his guys to go sterile like the regt does. I've talked to people in the know and this is NOT what it appears. It's not PC crap, it's a commander getting his guys to work together and let their actions speak louder than badges. This is only in the field not garrison.
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MSG Wally Carmichael
Again, SSG Lon Watson, thanks for your comments. What do you know about this one at 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 4th ID?
http://www.rallypoint.com/answers/more-combat-patches-and-badges-removed-what-message-is-this-sending
http://www.rallypoint.com/answers/more-combat-patches-and-badges-removed-what-message-is-this-sending
More Combat Patches and Badges, Removed? What message is this sending? | RallyPoint
You've seen my other post about 3rd BCT 101st making the decision to remove combat patches in training. 3rd BCT is not the only command doing this. What are they thinking? http://www.ijreview.com/2016/03/551421-soldiers-furious-after-what-army-combat-teams-are-making-them-take-off-their-uniforms/?
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SSG Lon Watson
MSG Wally Carmichael - I know people who served with this particular commander and I know another writer who recently spoke to him. His motive is to get people's mind off self while operating in the field. Nobody wears rank or patches at ranger school for that reason. This is a field policy that was born out of his time in 75th Ranger Regt.
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MSG Wally Carmichael
It is very interesting. It does not seem to be coming off to well. Certainly not the way he's wanting it to.
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I would say this will do the opposite of what they expect. Soldiers will lose morale and faith in their leadership. It'll also turn the younger soldiers into targets for those who get mad about this. Another question I've been asking but yet to get a serious answer to, what's next blank dress uniforms? The uniform does not make the soldier but if you earned it you should be allowed to wear it.
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Omg little whiny babies. It's the participation ribbons all over again!
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