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I have seen many SPC's promoted to SGT without any WLC and they seem vastly under prepared for leadership. Do you think that WLC should be attended before a SPC is eligible to make SGT?
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Edited 12 y ago
Posted 12 y ago
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I absolutely think that a soldier should be required to complete WLC and ALC before being promoted to SGT or SSG. The Army used to do this and is beginning to transition back to a select, train, and promote promotion system. I have always thought the biggest problem with NCOES is not what we are teaching but the audience we are selection to teach. WLC should be for a SPC, ALC for a SGT, SLC for a SSG because most leaders when selected to attend ALC or SLC have already been performing in the job for months if not years before attending.
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Yes. The army is also redefining what they teach in WLC. Answering the question of "what do you want a SGT to be able to do"? You are right on.
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I just pinned SGT a week ago and I haven't been to WLC. I had 34 months TIS and 16 months TIG. I worked my butt off to get that as well. However, I am wanting to go to WLC and would have in March but due to funding WLC was cancelled for a month. Under the latest changes on this subject doesn't a SGT have to attend WLC within a year of their DOR or their rank is taken? I am not sure of the Milper Mesg # of that but am almost sure I have seen it. If I find it, I will post it on here.
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Absolutely! Under the current rules however, you dont have to complete WLC until you are ready to be promoted to SSG. It is completely insane.
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I think so. I do know that my current unit will demote any E-5 who has been in that grade for more than a year and has not gone to WLC. However, most of our E-4s have gone to WLC already and many E-3s have completed SSD1.
But Brigades really don't like seeing anyone lower than E-4 hanging around so that might be why.
But Brigades really don't like seeing anyone lower than E-4 hanging around so that might be why.
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From a training and quality of leadership perspective yes I do agree this should be a prerequisite for promotion to SGT. In the same breath if it were made a prerequisite the requirement becomes to ensure we maintain increased courses to allow maximum opportunity for those that want to take the action to promote!
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Presently waiting for classes to start. Considering the level of professionalism expected of our leaders, WLC is a valuable too and required. Though some leaders are born, the level of efficiency demanded can not be undermined. SGT is just a name to me. It's when one is given an office or leadership role that the rank really count. Some make the rank but r of no difference to a private. It is the person that u r........ Leadership is personality!
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For myself I cannot agree with this because I made my 5 without wlc and I do just fine, but I do feel that it is necessary for some E-4's that are promotable or about to be promotable I feel it should be on a case by case basis.
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I am definitely late to the party, but I will add some content.
I went to WLC as a 5 and I felt like a sheisse-bag the entire time. My leadership skills were non-existant since I had many toxic leaders before going. I never truly knew what was correct, even though I tried to teach myself. But after completing WLC I felt much better about my confidence to lead soldiers, teach them, and allow for them to grow.
So to answer your question, YES WLC should be attended before you make SGT. I think it is bad enough that you can get to E6 without attending WLC, but a waiver is required.
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1SG Anthony R., Made a very good point when I was still on active duty it was a requirement to have the appropriate level of NCOES prior to promotion. An example when you packet went to the E-7 board. If you did not get selected for promotion, they looked at selection for ANCOC (can tell how old I am). Normally you got selected for schooling then the next year you normally made the promotion list.
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