Posted on Apr 15, 2014
COL Vincent Stoneking
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Should you salute gate guards
So, a military etiquette thing that has always caused me to wonder. Especially since JBLM put Soldiers back on the gates.<div><br><div>(Military) Gate guards salute Officers after checking their id. I always return &nbsp;the salute, whether in uniform or not. 90% of the time I am in civvies, swinging by before/after work or on my lunch break.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;Am I technically right to return the salute while in civvies? I'm going to continue regardless, as it seems rude not to return a salute.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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PV2 Duane Schlender
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Ive been out of uniform since december 2000, and i salute uniformed soldiers all the time.
My reasoning?
1) respect
2) to let them know i support them
3) i miss being in uniform

Its that simple for me.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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Edited 9 y ago
A salute even going back to medieval times was a sign of respect between fighting Men. Not to return a salute is a show of disrespect to the person that rendered a salute. The salute is done with the right hand in tradition to show that hand bears no weapon as most people are right handed. Upon entering a gate to a Military installation and the gate guard salutes, return that salute if You are in uniform or not. Even walking If a junior salutes an Officer in or out of uniform under proper protocol that Officer is expected to return that salute. Any officer in civilian clothes should be saluted as long as You have the knowledge that person is an Officer. All Officers and Warrant Officers of the United State Armed Forces should be saluted as well as Officers and Warrant Officers allied with or friendly to the United States. A nod or greeting without a salute is only acceptable if both Your hands are full and returning a salute is not possible. Whenever possible the right hand should be kept free to allow a proper salute or return salute.

Indoors salutes to Officers are required only when reporting for the first time during the day. If You work with an Officer in the same office area repeat visits to His desk in the same day would not require a salute on each return trip. That first salute should of course be returned and hold You salute until it is. The reporting may be given with a phrase such as Sergeant Jones, "Reporting as Ordered" as one example. Once again not returning a salute is a sign of disrespect.

I have taught Military Customs and Courtesies to both Members of the Armed Forces as well as Cadets None of this is complicated. There is no substitute for proper respect. Take pride in that salute !
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LT Michael Cavaggioni
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I am glad to have read this post because I have never been sure about what the appropriate response in civvies should be. In uniform I salute back but most of the time I am in my civvies so I would give them a wave instead. I think I am going to start saluting in my civvies because it just seems like the respectful thing to do. They deserve the same respect back that they show when they render their salute. Thanks for the post LTC.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
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Don't do it. It's not appropriate. A wave or a thank you is. A smile or a thank you doesn't hurt, either.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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Lt, it is appropriate for other services such as the Army or Air Force in or out of uniform . To coin a phrase when in Rome do as the Romans do !
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PO2 Kris Beaver
PO2 Kris Beaver
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LT - Some will tell you not to do it, and technically, if your in civvies, your NOT required to do so (by regulation or by any protocols). I can tell you, as someone who's stood more than his fair share of gate duty (both base and pier), if your wearing a cover of any military type, return that salute. If your not, at least give the guard a verbal, "have a great day sailor" or some such. It's always appreciated and makes us junior folks feel just that bit better. Guarantee you, at some point in the watch, we've had to deal with at least one jack-hole, and getting that nod from an officer makes the day better. Myself personally, having been out about 19 years now.. I'm always wearing some sort of military affiliated ball cap, and congress says I can salute with that, so I do!
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SSG(P) Instructor
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I think it is belligerent of an officer that doesn't return a salute. It is the same when I say Hello to a stranger...
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SPC Jessica Stewart
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I don't think it should be mandatory but saluting back, civvies or not, is returning the respect shown to you so I say continue for sure!
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SGT Bryon Sergent
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Well sir as an Infantryman and an MP I have saluted every officer that has come through my Point. Wether it be at Post, rear gate or where ever. And the return saulte is nice acknoweldging that we have saulted you as in respect. If all I got was a carry-on and no saulte or at-ease or what ever you still ackoweldge that I was saluting. With that being said in an Field enviroment there as be a few officers that got butt hurt because I didn't. I then replied with a hearty SNIPER CHECK SIR and carried on!

I was corrected by the battalion commander once in on of my earlier units, LTC Cooper. Iwas doing something I forget what, was unaware of my surroundings and the COl walked up. He surpised me when I seen him. I knew someone was coming but thought it was on of my guys. I looked up seen him. Snapped a salute "evening sir!" he didnt return the saulte and politely asked me" CPL Sergent do you dislike me?" No sir, then why the salute!" It was kinda ackward and we spoke for several minutes. He was a very nice man.

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MAJ Jim Woods
MAJ Jim Woods
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I always did.
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LTC Martin Metz
LTC Martin Metz
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Field conditions change the perspective. Who wants to ID leadership to an expectant enemy sniper?
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CPL Christian Bengel
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You would be absolutely correct sir!  Regardless of what uniform or clothing you're wearing, you're still an officer within the US Army.  Ettiquette requires the guard to salute you, however return of the salute by the superior is NOT required. 
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MAJ Michael Rieker
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You may not be “required“ to return the salute while in the vehicle, but many soldiers unfortunately view the salute as a sign of subservience, and they try to avoid doing it whenever they are not “required”. I wish everyone would be the salute as the earned privilege to show mutual respect for a fellow soldier. Therefore, I will always return the salute, whether I am in a vehicle, in uniform, in civvies, whatever.
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COL Jon Lopey
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COL: I always return a salute when it is rendered, even from a vehicle. I always make it a crisp salute as well. I am usually in civilian attire too since I am retired. It may be "old school" but that was the way I was taught. COL L
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I always do. ( When I as a butter bar; I asked a friend who was prior enlisted security forces, he said they think your a dick if you don't...) So since then, its been 10 years I a salute every time.
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