Posted on Feb 17, 2017
Similar to the E-2 question, how would you react to a young 2LT who is being unprofessional with a strong sense of entitlement?
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Here's the background. You are an experienced Soldier. You walk in to the commissary to see a young 2LT shopping with a headset on. You professionally and politely get the 2LT’s attention and address the deficiency. They blatantly are rude, dismiss your comment, and tell you that those rules do not apply to him as an officer. Whether you are an Officer or Enlisted, how do you react?
Posted 9 y ago
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I have had this happen to me a couple of years back. I am a retired AF First Sergeant and was taking a break with another retiree outside our base commissary when we noted an Army male exit his vehicle without his cover. I addressed the issue in a polite manner. I asked where his hat was and he indicated in the car and could care less about not having it on. I asked who he was assigned to so I could address the issue to his Commander. EOD came his reply plus he could careless since he was getting out in two weeks. The EOD School was contacted with no Army Officers assigned. I figured he was assigned to the 7th Group Special Forces. All Officers Call was made and the issue addressed. No further problems encountered.
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It is part of the job for a good NCO to quietly correct a 2LT. In most cases, the 2LT will appreciate the NCO's act. For the few that will act as described above, they must be reported to their command.
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Must be an Army thang. Off duty in the commissary playing Deputy Dawg is Mickey Mouse bullshit.
V/r, Master Chief Radioman, USN
V/r, Master Chief Radioman, USN
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I think SFC Dusty Hobbs response to a Colonel and Major at Fort Campbell illustrates the solution best.
SFC Hobbs had a detail working near the PX. He had been on them about maintaining a professional demeanor. They noticed the two field grades walking with out their headgear. Troops being what they where demanded he take action.
Dusty approached the two officers saluted and explained the situation and respectfully requested they put on their caps. They gave him a ration. He sent his troops back to the company and went to see the CG. He sat for 6 hours and finally saw the general. He related the incident. General called Colonel. Colonel told a different story, Major lied.
CG dispatched the MP for Dusty's squad. MP picked up Colonel and Major. General interviewed all involved separately. Result the Colonel was retired Major resigned Dusty and squad received letters of commendation.
Solution for LT. Approach respectfully. If they give you shit report to your chain of command. The First Shirt association will take care of the LT.
SFC Hobbs had a detail working near the PX. He had been on them about maintaining a professional demeanor. They noticed the two field grades walking with out their headgear. Troops being what they where demanded he take action.
Dusty approached the two officers saluted and explained the situation and respectfully requested they put on their caps. They gave him a ration. He sent his troops back to the company and went to see the CG. He sat for 6 hours and finally saw the general. He related the incident. General called Colonel. Colonel told a different story, Major lied.
CG dispatched the MP for Dusty's squad. MP picked up Colonel and Major. General interviewed all involved separately. Result the Colonel was retired Major resigned Dusty and squad received letters of commendation.
Solution for LT. Approach respectfully. If they give you shit report to your chain of command. The First Shirt association will take care of the LT.
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Inform him that rules and regulations apply to everyone and let his Command Sergeant Major know.
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He better hope he isn't my platoon leader and has to tc my track...ever heard of turret surfing.
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I would say with all due respect military regulations apply to all military personnel irregardless of rank and you being an officer and a leader should set the example but if you insist on breaking regulations than I will be forced to take this incident up the chaine of command
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I would remind the young 2d Lt., that regulations apply to all ranks. Then point out to him more discreetly that as an officer, he sets the example for not only the men in his platoon, but others around him.
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