Posted on Feb 17, 2017
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Here's the background. You are an experienced Soldier. You walk in to the commissary to see a young 2LT shopping with a headset on. You professionally and politely get the 2LT’s attention and address the deficiency. They blatantly are rude, dismiss your comment, and tell you that those rules do not apply to him as an officer. Whether you are an Officer or Enlisted, how do you react?
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SPC Don Goffaux
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To start with I would politely ask him what Company he was assigned to on post & ask him if you can be transferred there & get or ask his name if in PT uniform before making any remarks. . . & after politely remarking on his screwed up fashion sense & they get rude with me . . . I would say with all due respect Sir/Maam your ate the fuck up if you think that would fly with the Post Commander & Command Sgt Major
And if from your unit take it to Battalion Command Sgt Major. . .
If their not from your unit you can take your concerns directly to the Post Command Sgt Major & really F- their day up!
But remember the keywords WITH ALL DUE RESPECT SIR / MAAM !
That is your get outta trouble trump card!
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SGT Timothy Posemato
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I was a Sgt in a 81mm squad, we were setting up for a fire mission when a brand new "butter bar" 2LT came up and told me what we were doing was wrong, in the academy they taught us this. I politely informed him that he wasn't in the academy anymore, he was in the real world, and many things they teach you don't apply out here, those are under ideal conditions. He became loud and demanding and said as a Sgt, I never correct him, a 2LT. The CO was within ear shot and in no uncertain terms that he was a new 2LT and if one of his Sgts said or was doing something he better not interfere because he had the years of experience and he knew what he was talking about. That 2LT eventually made Lt and turned out to be one fine officer.
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SFC Jeff Lapp
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New battery XO 2nd Lt. on his first live fire exercise with an 8 inch Artillery unit. I was the gunner on the Battery base piece. The XO strolled up and informed me he was going to check the lay of my gun. I replied "yes Sir. please do". He proceeded to pull out his M-2 compass and shoot an azimuth, quickly he called out "Sgt your gun is out of safe range". I calmly replied "it is not Sir". He was starting to get in his feelings. I asked him to recheck his findings after he took off his Steel Pot (giving up my age), M-16, and move out from under the 15,600 lb howitzer tube, move about 50 meters in front of the gun, and shoot a back azimuth. Upon his return he quietly said " your gun is safe, thank you Sgt". He did end up being a great XO, we just need to teach them correctly.
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SSG Clayton Lam
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before one of my deployments, my unit was standing in line to have new equipment issued. The civilian who ran the facility specifically stated that only Majors and above and SGMs and above were permitted to skip the line. Right after that I had two 2LTS come up to and tell me that I needed to move down so they could skip everyone else in the line. I repeated the instructions of the civilian and told them they had to go in the back of the line like everyone else and when they told me that they did not have to because they were officers, I quickly called out to a Captain who was in line behind me and let him know what was happening. They were quickly put in their place. If an officer is acting unprofessionally you should report it to someone in your chain of command. First, try your squad leader or PTL Sergeant, and if that does not work report it to your 1SG. You can report it to your commander but that would be a last resort. You can use your commander's or 1SG's open door policy which is spelled out in AR 600-20 (Army Command policy). We had a PSG and a LT fired from our platoon because of their behavior and incompetence.
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CPO Bill Feller
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Well if I know his XO I gladly go and tell him of the poor example his JO is displaying to the Troops and then wait for the yelling to begin as it’s all gonna be one sided. When we had middies onboard for the summer we had this Midn 1st class who liked to hide during drills. The Chief of the BoT let the E-6’s run the middies. And this guy was Helo’d off as soon as the skipper could arrange with a letter of reprimand for his ROTC Commander. Come to find out later he was dropped from the program.
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MSG John Endersbe
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When I re-enlisted as an E7, a second lieutenant admin type noted I had an unbuttoned pocked and loudly insisted I button it before he signed the reenlistment. I did. As he turned to sign, I noted his back pocket was unbuttoned. I, equally loudly, insisted he button his pocket before signing. I thought his clerk was going to swallow her tongue. Had he balked, the colonel would have signed.
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SSG James Wilcox
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Too easy. You call the E4 mafia
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LTJG David Fisher
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Well start by documenting each offense if you can. Keep notes on the behavior with dates and times and the situation and if possible, get someone who was there to initial the date/time of your note taking. Called "contemporaneous notes". That is NOT their agreement, merely, their establishing the time/date of your notes... nothing more.

Is he merely a poor leader (bad enough) but does he endanger anyone or demean others publicly. Senior officers need clear evidence and proof to act. Otherwise they will defend the chain of command.

Ask to speak with the 2LT ***privately*** and tell him your concerns. The language you use is vital: do not confront him. His poor leadership behavior is probably rooted in self-image issues and you cannot confront him as it will trigger strong self defense response and he'll not hear a word. You really have to be tactful. Keep it short, easy to understand, and on the feeling and emotional level. "I'd feel great to do more for your orders, if I could understand better how you lead. This is risky if you are not tactful. Perhaps best not to do this.

Do not say anything that is NOT true for you. Do not say "others feel the same way" as that is a direct threat. You won't fix this issue, but you can lessen the negative impact.

Instead, tell him about how you feel about the issue without blaming him for anything. You are attempting to reach an emotional connection and not a "proof of a crime" slapped in his face. Let him know how you feel and how you would like to feel when working with him. You want to follow his orders and for the division (whatever group it is) to work better and to accomplish more. This gives him an out and does not threaten his self image.

Do not try to accomplish too much. He will not apologize as his self image will not allow that. Give him an example of one case in which if he said "this and this" it would work better for him (NOT for you, but for him.)

You are dealing with someone whose self image is poor and you cannot repair that. Lacking that, go to senior officer (not necessarily next in the chain) and show and talk about your notes and make sure you keep referencing your respect for the chain of command and that perhaps some ***minor*** adjustments coming from seniors could help. You have to be careful not to appear to be a threat to the chain of command by "ratting" on his fellow officer.

"Minor adjustments"??? You want to make it easy for Sr. Officer to get on board, not a big deal but something needing some minor adjustments. Then enables the senior officer to fill in the blanks as it IS a big deal or you would not have come to him, but, you let him arrive at that conclusion.

If offender is endangering anyone, then you really do have to talk to Sr. Officers as soon as you have some notes and proof.
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SSG Bruce Garrido
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If you know your right? And not make correction by bringing it to the higher ups in that commisary, Your as wrong as he is.
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LTC Program Manager
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I would make the correction and move on, you can't fix the whole Army today, you can't make that person who outranks you care all at once.

13 or so years ago i was in Kuwait as a Junior CPT just as the ACUs came out with velcro name tapes. I would correct at least 3 people a day, many of them senior to me, that had their name and US Army reversed. I had so many adverse reactions from some people (such as officers and CSMs saying my name tapes must be wrong) that i would just walk up to them and say quietly that their name tapes were on the wrong side and walk away. I did have one Major chase after me to thank me, "Ive been walking around all day like that".

Pick your battles
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