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It's Friday morning and you get a call that one of your Soldiers got arrested by local law enforcement for a DUI. You can bail them out in the next few hours or let them sit until Monday morning. What do you do?
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Alcohol
Crime
Posted 11 y ago
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- Arrest for DUI is not conviction for DUI. Two different issues. Chain of command must let this civil issue play out within the civil arena. If convicted then certain actions must be taken by the chain of command.
- If "bail out" means go pick the Soldier up and bring them back to the unit then yes. That is a chain of command responsibility.
- If "bail out" means to commit chain of command personal funds for bail then no. That is the Soldier's responsibility. If the Soldier can afford bail great, then see comment #2 above. If the Soldier can not afford bail then the Soldier waits until Monday morning. It is what it is.
- If "bail out" means go pick the Soldier up and bring them back to the unit then yes. That is a chain of command responsibility.
- If "bail out" means to commit chain of command personal funds for bail then no. That is the Soldier's responsibility. If the Soldier can afford bail great, then see comment #2 above. If the Soldier can not afford bail then the Soldier waits until Monday morning. It is what it is.
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This one is ripped for debate:
Ultimately, it comes down to you doing the right thing as a Leader to help REHABILITATE the Soldier.
Ultimately, it comes down to you doing the right thing as a Leader to help REHABILITATE the Soldier.
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That is a no-brainer in my mind: you immediately assist your soldier in arranging to be released and then bring them back to their place of duty.
That is *your* soldier sitting in jail. Unless you know that he or she is guilty of the crime, you have no business as a leader letting him or her sit there all weekend -- not to mention deliberately adding an unauthorized absence from place of duty.
That is *your* soldier sitting in jail. Unless you know that he or she is guilty of the crime, you have no business as a leader letting him or her sit there all weekend -- not to mention deliberately adding an unauthorized absence from place of duty.
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SSgt (Join to see)
Thank you! One thing that is pissing me off is jumping to conclusions and this insane desire to have Article 15s meted out. Let's give our people a break until we can't anymore. SSgt Alexander Ingram
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Will Beltz
so my boyfriend was in jail with no bail and got released to army official how is that possible?
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1LT William Clardy
Because police are familiar with the ways of the Army, Will Beltz. If PFC Schmuckatelli's squad leader says his private will not miss his court date, the cops know that Schmuckatelli will be in even deeper doo-doo if he ghosts.
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Honestly, if the soldier can't afford their own bail, I probably can't afford it either.
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He can bail him or herself out, and I can help point that SM in the right direction for those funds. Also, I was in a unit that allowed a soldier to stay in jail for almost a month due to the court needed bail money for writing bad checks and it was a lot of them. Remember, if you pay someone's bond, you are pretty much responsible to get them to court.
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I'd let them sit in there... You are responsible for your actions and must learn from your mistakes.
Btw, I hate the fact you're at Schofield... I tried for years to get there, but my MOS was too small... Dang you!
Btw, I hate the fact you're at Schofield... I tried for years to get there, but my MOS was too small... Dang you!
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Does it require bail, or just your signature? A DUI on a Friday, hmm- it would depend on what kind of soldier they are- a 1st mistake/great troop- get them. A problem/dirtbag/repeat offender- let them enjoy the visit. Either way their 4th POC is mine when I do get them.
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Let him sit in jail and think about the wrong decision using your money to pay someone's bail can open up another issue if the person don't want to reimburse you.
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Depends on the soldier. I personnelly let my soldiers set in there until the next day or over the weekend. But I go see them first to make sure they were ok.
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Speaking of bailing someone out. I need to go bail my mother out. Bingo again! You'd think at 79 she would be over that,,,,,
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