Posted on Mar 26, 2015
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izumo-class_helicopter_destroyer

As a Destoyerman I would say not but it is impressive and with the balance of power in the South China Sea and the US cutting back on defense spending/number of Carrier we will need Japan to have a strong defense force to counter the growing Chinese threat.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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No, it's a carrier in all but name. This is a work around of Japan's Constitution.
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1LT Nick Kidwell
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As in keeping them from amassing a large carrier-based strike force that may once again attack Hawaii?

Unlikely nowadays, but I understand the origin.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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The origins was to keep a militarized Japan from not rising again, true. But also to keep them dependent upon the US. Japanese today are well aware of the sins of their grandfathers. To an extent, they've gone the same way as the Germans have and become almost pathologic pacifists. I think it's fine if Japan starts to rearm with weapons that make it easier for their own defense. Especially if the US continues the trend of being hesitant to provide military help to it's friends and allies.
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DDH-183 is stretches the limit as a destroyer. It still has a bow mounted sonar however it's only offensive ASW weapon is it's helos. It also only has point defense AAW weapons. It has no amphibious capabilities (they do have amphibs though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ōsumi-class_tank_landing_ship)

I'm on a DDG in Yokosuka, Japan (this ship's homeport). I have been underway with DDH-181/182 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyūga-class_helicopter_destroyer). They're a smaller version of 183 (50 meters shorter), except they have VLS. When conducting joint operations with 181 or 182 with the GW strike group they were used as destroyers in the screen.

Saw her pull in the other day It's a fine looking ship.
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Yes I have been in a Burke also, I have a friend in command of one Yoko now. They are great ships built to fight.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Our standards are different than the rest of the world. What we call something is not necessarily what the rest of the world would call it.

As an example, our LHD's are effectively "Carriers" to the rest of the world, while our Carriers are "Super Carriers" which puts us in the position of having more "Carriers" and "Super Carriers" combined than the rest of the world total (or close to).

That said, this doesn't look like a "Destroyer" in the technical sense, and is more akin to a LHA or LHD.
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