Posted on Feb 22, 2014
Spouses/dependents wearing your uniform components in public?
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We have all seen it, spouses wearing their "sponsors" pt jacket, fleece jacket etc while walking around in public. I would really like to know why it is that "YOU" as the service member allow your spouse to wear a part of your uniform in public. Do you not have any pride in your uniform or your profession, or do you just not care that they do it? I would never let my wife wear my PT Jacket or anything else of mine that is essentially INITIAL ISSUE OR TA-50 in public. If she wants to support what I do and it is cold out, I'd get her an Army hoodie, not strip my name tapes off and let her walk around in MY Army issued fleece jacket. There is a discussion about Soldiers walking around in uniform after COB and "how wrong that is". So why do people think this it is OK to let their spouse wear their uniform and announce "my family is in the Army" or "give me special attention". And knowing that dependents are REALLY not so much subject to 670-1/ UCMJ in that aspect, is there any input as to what can be done about it besides walking away disgusted.<br>
Posted 12 y ago
Responses: 133
I don't really care what family members wear (my family does not however wear my uniform articles) as long as they are not trying to impersonate a Soldier. That said, I really don't want to hear excuses from Soldiers when they are missing their PT gear (or something) and then I see their spouse wearing it at the supermarket. Actually what really bothers me is spouses who wear their SMs rank. Nothing worse than a spouse trying to push you around because their SM is higher in rank. Join the Army if you want Army rank I say and SMs, get your souses under control!
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MSG Davis
Can we apply the same rule to the spouses of Generals/Colonels/CSM's, you know the ones that have reserved parking in the PX and all you see is their dependents parked in there
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LTC Charles Sherman
Oh yeah, here we go on the "Reserved Parking" thing...man, that chaps me every time I see it.
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I can't speak for Active Duty folks, as I could see where a spouse wearing military garb could throw someone off on post or something, but being a Reservist, I wouldn't ever say anything against my wife or daughter wearing my fleece or PT cap.
She obviously doesn't wear my ACUs or anything like that, but I have three fleece jackets. There's no reason why she can't show her support for the military or the unit. She's definitely not trying to impersonate or pretend to get support or satisfaction.
You don't see people saying that they're looking for attention when they have the boots and hearts stickers on their car [Half my heart is in Iraq] or whatever other significance they represent. The same goes with service men and women who wear the KIA bracelets. It's support. It's respect and memory. That's how I view it.
It's said, time and time again that your family is one of the biggest supporters and advocates of this profession, so to make a mountain out of a molehill just seems to be silly.
That picture SSG Woods showed is just ... wrong, lol. And it's Walmart. It's almost expected.
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SSG (Join to see)
wearing a bracelet and stickers on a car aren't an issue nor do I see it as a good comparison since you arent responsible for the stickers nor can you be held liable for it under UCMJ etc. (not a big deal, just saying) , but a uniform which you wear and are responsible for and has regulations that you have to follow when you/we wear it, i just find it annoying. I get it that most familys wear them to show support, but again, its just irritating.
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SSG (Join to see)
I do understand, but what my wife wears isn't Initial Issue. She wanted it and bought it, ha... don't ask me why, but I suppose I'd rather see her rocking Army green than some $100 Northface...
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SGT (Join to see)
I hate it when spouses wear their sponsors Army clothes but I don't lose sleep over it.
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SSG (Join to see)
SGT Spencer, nice perspective. I dislike it too but definitely not going to stay awake at night brooding over it. There are much more important things and issues to worry about.
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Take it not as disrespect. Although I do not disragard the fact that at times it does appear to be that way. I ask you look past it and ask yourself. What has that family been through and what might they be going through? If you had a child and they asked to were mommy's or daddy's cover would you slap the child and say, "How dare you disrespect that uniform!" No you would not so why do you jump so eagerly to shout disrepect at this? Am I, a disabled veteran, shameful to you because I no longer keep a high and tight but still wear my dog tags so that I may remember the amazing life I lived as a soldier? I guess my point is this. Everyone is going to say that they earned the right to wear that uniform. That is a lie, they earned the right to be an american soldier. Uniform or not that is what they should be proud of. Take pride in the lives you protect, save, and remember the lives that you couldn't. Honor the values you swore to uphold. Never go back on the oath you took. In doing all those things we demonstraight the soldiers we are and can be. It is when we stop doing those things that we lose the right to call ourselves American soldiers.
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SSG (Join to see), I can promise you that my wife has never, ever worn any of my Army gear, and it's not even because I forbid it. She never had any desire to do so and never did. Ever.
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Hello,
I understand how some spouses feel being that I was one. I got it that some of them feel that the are serving too. not quite true spouses in all reality you are supporting your spouse thru whatever he or she is going thru in what ever branch. However that does not give you the right to wear the uniform any which way you can. Honestly you take pride when the 1st and 15th come around so why can't you take some pride if you are going to prance around in one of your spouses uniforms. Take some pride in that. He or she is the one doing the hard work you are that home support system. face the truth about it. You don't like it raise your hand and change it. it is 2015 A New Beginning.
I understand how some spouses feel being that I was one. I got it that some of them feel that the are serving too. not quite true spouses in all reality you are supporting your spouse thru whatever he or she is going thru in what ever branch. However that does not give you the right to wear the uniform any which way you can. Honestly you take pride when the 1st and 15th come around so why can't you take some pride if you are going to prance around in one of your spouses uniforms. Take some pride in that. He or she is the one doing the hard work you are that home support system. face the truth about it. You don't like it raise your hand and change it. it is 2015 A New Beginning.
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My wife never wore any part of my uniforms but if she wanted to I wouldn’t have stopped her. I deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan five times with the 2nd Ranger BN when I was enlisted. Each time she stayed home with little information about what I was doing or where I was at. She would receive notification from the FRG about injuries and deaths with no communication from me. When I could call and talk to her I couldn’t talk about anything that had happened or what I had experienced. I can’t imagine the stress and terror she experienced. You go ahead babe and wear whatever you want.
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SGT Sam Cowgill
My father had two tours in Viet Nam. My mother took care of the four of us.She worked in the laundry while we were at school. WE always had clean clothes,food and Love. I still remember her watching the 10:00 news(while we were in bed) I would hear her weeping. She earned the right to wear any (or all)of my dads uniform. Heck she could wear mine if she wanted to. She earned the right!!!
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I've seen civilian personnel wearing complete uniforms around here looking for handouts. So where does the OK its fine for my spouse or siblings to where it around town stop? I now work for the NOSe and were not allowed to where our government issued uniforms out on the town. Take pride in your uniform you earned the right to wear. And then with all the hostility now a days do you really want to make a loved one a target? The whole reason you don't wear your uniform around town is so you don't stand out in a crowd. It's like training in a field environment and an officer getting rather heated because he or she wasn't saluted, to which I would retort sniper check..... usually got a rise out of the officer but that was the point. Don't bring uneeded attention to yourself or your loved ones is just good OPSEC!!
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The PT t-shirts don't bother me. Unit t-shirts and sweatshirts are ok. Even the thermals if it's cold out I don't mind. Outer parts of the duty uniform, no. Absolutely not. Not OUTSIDE the house anyway...
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Unless things have changed, I'm pretty sure that Soldiers are authorized to wear part of or all of their PTU while in civilian clothes. Been out for three years but I haven't heard of any changes. With that being said and considering I went by AR670-1 it should not be a problem to anyone if the Soldier or the Spouse wears it. Now if we are talking other uniforms I say read the regulations and what is acceptable by Army Standards for the Soldier to do, it should be acceptable for the spouse also. That's just my two cents. I pose two questions to you on the picture that we are using. One) Is that a dependent or are we assuming? 2) If that was a model looking civilian or Soldier and it was a shot from the front would this even be brought up? Just asking!
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Here's the thing, bro. Spouses are not bound to military rules, and I for one, am so unbelievably proud when my spouse chooses to represent the honor of our union, and the strength of our community; with apparel. Who the hell cares? Why is it anyone else's business, and; to the OP, you sound like a mentally manipulative, counter productive, control freak ASSHOLE. Get over yourself.
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