Posted on Mar 22, 2015
Stolen Valor: How do we punish the phony "Hero"?
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The guy in the picture says it all. WTF?????
Since the "Supreme Court" shot down the Stolen Valor Act, is there any real recourse to punish the sleazebag through our judicial system? I find it strange that you can go to jail for impersonating a police officer, soldier, or government official, but you don't get squat if you are a "PX Hero" sleazebag. Below is an except from Wikipedia--
United States v. Alvarez, 567 U.S. ___ (2012), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court struck down the Stolen Valor Act, a federal law that criminalized false statements about having a military medal. The law had been passed as an effort to stem instances where people falsely claimed to have won the medal in an attempt to protect the "valor" of those who really had. While a 6-3 majority of the Supreme Court agreed that the law was unconstitutional under the First Amendment's free speech protections, it could not agree on a single rationale. Four justices concluded that a statement's falsity is not enough, by itself, to exclude speech from First Amendment protection. Another two justices concluded that while false statements were entitled to some protection, the Stolen Valor Act was invalid because it could have achieved its objectives in less restrictive ways.
Reaction from the political community and from veteran organizations were negative. Several months after the decision, both chambers of Congress passed new versions of the Stolen Valor Act based on the suggestions in the Court's opinion. Despite the Supreme Court having struck down the conviction under the Act, Alvarez remained in prison for fraud on other matters.--- You notice he didn't get squat for the phony awards.
Since the "Supreme Court" shot down the Stolen Valor Act, is there any real recourse to punish the sleazebag through our judicial system? I find it strange that you can go to jail for impersonating a police officer, soldier, or government official, but you don't get squat if you are a "PX Hero" sleazebag. Below is an except from Wikipedia--
United States v. Alvarez, 567 U.S. ___ (2012), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court struck down the Stolen Valor Act, a federal law that criminalized false statements about having a military medal. The law had been passed as an effort to stem instances where people falsely claimed to have won the medal in an attempt to protect the "valor" of those who really had. While a 6-3 majority of the Supreme Court agreed that the law was unconstitutional under the First Amendment's free speech protections, it could not agree on a single rationale. Four justices concluded that a statement's falsity is not enough, by itself, to exclude speech from First Amendment protection. Another two justices concluded that while false statements were entitled to some protection, the Stolen Valor Act was invalid because it could have achieved its objectives in less restrictive ways.
Reaction from the political community and from veteran organizations were negative. Several months after the decision, both chambers of Congress passed new versions of the Stolen Valor Act based on the suggestions in the Court's opinion. Despite the Supreme Court having struck down the conviction under the Act, Alvarez remained in prison for fraud on other matters.--- You notice he didn't get squat for the phony awards.
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This guy is my hero. Look at all that shiny stuff on that uniform. I gotta hit the clothing and sales to get me some more bling soon, so I can look more bad ass.
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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA
MSG (Join to see), the gentleman pictured is LTC Bo Gritz, and he is not a poser; nor is this likely a case of stolen valor, at least not in the conventional sense. It's difficult to see all of his medals, but I am sure that he was awarded each and every one of them, even though he displays them so sloppily.
The awarding of the various medals was, however, most unusual, with LTC Gritz actively following the progress of each recommendation, and perhaps suggesting or even writing the recommendations himself. You can read about it here: http://www.miafacts.org/gritz.htm
The awarding of the various medals was, however, most unusual, with LTC Gritz actively following the progress of each recommendation, and perhaps suggesting or even writing the recommendations himself. You can read about it here: http://www.miafacts.org/gritz.htm
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I understand this might be considered a freedom of speech however, I believe we have fought for and have truly earned the same freedom of speech.....we can use that freedom of speech to call out these non-hacker wanna-be's that are imposters.
There was a bill passed in 2013:
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/06/03/obama-signs-new-stolen-valor-act.html
There was a bill passed in 2013:
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/06/03/obama-signs-new-stolen-valor-act.html
Obama Signs New Stolen Valor Act
President Obama on Monday signed into law the latest version of the Stolen Valor Act.
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MAJ (Join to see)
I the case of the clown you have pictured here, CSM Michael J. Uhlig, a simple throat punch should suffice.
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Unfortunately we're treading a fine line between violation of the 'Stolen Valor' and 1st Amendment. As long as this idiot doesn't get ANY monetary profits from wearing this mess (including free drinks), there's nothing we can really do.
Impersonating a police officer would violate a public trust issue of him acting in a role of 'emergency responder', so it would definitely be a no-no.
I feel your pain. Other than 'street justice' this wacko by publicly insulting him, recording and uploading a photo of him, there's not much more we can do here, sorry :-(
Impersonating a police officer would violate a public trust issue of him acting in a role of 'emergency responder', so it would definitely be a no-no.
I feel your pain. Other than 'street justice' this wacko by publicly insulting him, recording and uploading a photo of him, there's not much more we can do here, sorry :-(
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PO1 (Join to see)
SFC Russell Campbell, that's when street justice comes in. Public humiliation, belittling, hell I'd probably even spit on the bastard, recording and posting on youtube are some of the best options in this case. Legally you cannot condemn them (except misrepresenting the Medal of Honor) unfortunately. At least at this time. Stolen Valor act is repealed for now...
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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In 1942, the U.S. Supreme Court established the doctrine by a 9–0 decision in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire. It held that "insulting or 'fighting words,' those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace" are among the "well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech the prevention and punishment of [which] … have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words
In 1942, the U.S. Supreme Court established the doctrine by a 9–0 decision in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire. It held that "insulting or 'fighting words,' those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace" are among the "well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech the prevention and punishment of [which] … have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words
Fighting words - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fighting words are written or spoken words, generally expressed to incite hatred or violence from their target. Specific definitions, freedoms, and limitations of fighting words vary by jurisdiction. It is also used in a general sense of words that when uttered tend to create (deliberately or not) a verbal or physical confrontation by their mere usage.
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In my opinion, "spit on the bastard, recording and posting on youtube are some of the best options in this case" in fact, aren't the best options in this case. There are specific medals a poser would have to be wearing and at the same time getting official benefit to violate any laws.
If he or she isn't wearing any of those specific medals...no violation.
Wearing one but only got a discounted Burger King meal...no violation.
Wearing several and got discounted meals all across town...no violation.
Wearing one of the specified medals and got subsidized health care as a result....violation.
Edited because I cannot read and combined two people's posts in my head...and formatting.
If he or she isn't wearing any of those specific medals...no violation.
Wearing one but only got a discounted Burger King meal...no violation.
Wearing several and got discounted meals all across town...no violation.
Wearing one of the specified medals and got subsidized health care as a result....violation.
Edited because I cannot read and combined two people's posts in my head...and formatting.
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SSG Gerhard S.
I'd just like to point out that the person depicted in the post is NOT a poser. He is, in fact a retired Special Forces Officer who served in Vietnam, and WAS awarded all those medals, though, sloppily displayed. That being said he has some pretty far out ideas. Here's his bio.
http://www.bogritz.com/biography.htm
http://www.bogritz.com/biography.htm
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