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I have an LS2 on my ship who made it off of his first exam and has only been in for almost two years. Also, as a nuke, you can STAR re-enlist and get automatic E-5, I believe. Still, that doesn't explain this POS.
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Good for you man. I hate that shit. These people are scum and have no honor and no pride. They are low lives I am very happy you did what you did. Good for you brother. I was Navy myself. I'm Bm3 Toth from the BHR . Been out for 5 years now and I miss the hell out of it.
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It's good that you spotted the fake and but hi on blast. This also needs to be done with military guys that have claimed to have been to war. The only thing i can really say is as a sailor that made PO2 in 2 years I know it can be done, I even know a few that made it in 1 1/2 years so that isn't really a red flag.
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I made E5 under two years. It's possible...E4 out of A school top of your class then make the E5 test first time up. Difference is I have two ribbons not 4 rows! Pretty sure that's impossible lol.
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PO1 Matthew Wicke
Not impossible. I served with an RM3 that was on an AOE during Desert Storm. Every time his ship went past a certain lattitude, he would receive an different award. He had a chest-full of candy (3 or 4 rows) after one deployment
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Well, while it is not illegal to lie about it anymore, it is still illegal to wear the uniform by Federal law (10 USC, 771). If the uniform was warn in order to commit fraud, like get a free or discount meal, etc. the DA's office is more likely to persecute. Call the police, if you're lucky you'll get a police officer who is a veteran too, make things interesting.
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E5 in two years is possible. I was one at about two years.
But thank you for watching out for that! Good looking out.
But thank you for watching out for that! Good looking out.
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It does anger me to know that if someone publicly lies about being a war hero or veteran, it falls under freedom of speech. But I think media coverage when could be punishment enough because it would bring to light their phony reputation and keep them from being able to exploit their lying methods.
We already know the original Stolen Valor Act had to be repealed and rephrased so that it's only illegal if they do it to obtain some sort of tangible benefit. If they impersonate a military member for access to a gala or social event or gain an advantage with employers, then it should also be illegal, which I believe it is under the Act.
It kind of reminds me of the case of Adam Wheeler, the student/con artist who cheated his way to get into Harvard by forging transcripts and fabricating letters of recommendation in addition to plagiarizing his essays. He only got caught when he used his cheating methods to shoot for Rhodes and Fulbright awards which are considered to be the most prestigious scholarships in the country. He was prosecuted but only because of the legal documents he had forged (letters of recommendation and transcripts).
So if someone who merely claims to have served puts it on their resume, especially if it includes forging service records, they should definitely be prosecuted.
We already know the original Stolen Valor Act had to be repealed and rephrased so that it's only illegal if they do it to obtain some sort of tangible benefit. If they impersonate a military member for access to a gala or social event or gain an advantage with employers, then it should also be illegal, which I believe it is under the Act.
It kind of reminds me of the case of Adam Wheeler, the student/con artist who cheated his way to get into Harvard by forging transcripts and fabricating letters of recommendation in addition to plagiarizing his essays. He only got caught when he used his cheating methods to shoot for Rhodes and Fulbright awards which are considered to be the most prestigious scholarships in the country. He was prosecuted but only because of the legal documents he had forged (letters of recommendation and transcripts).
So if someone who merely claims to have served puts it on their resume, especially if it includes forging service records, they should definitely be prosecuted.
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Hoo freaken Rah to the active duty guy. I see this a lot here in maine and never know how to handle it. It pisses me off. Iv got a few fallen comrades and to see people impersonating the military pisses me off.
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i woulda simply told him "Look at you... you need to get your shit together".
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I think jail is the way to go... like you said "If you impersonate an Airline Pilot, a Lawyer, a Doctor, or a Police Officer, you will get thrown in Jail if you get caught."
in fact I think impersonating a member of the armed forces should carry a stronger sentence.
in fact I think impersonating a member of the armed forces should carry a stronger sentence.
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