Posted on Apr 14, 2015
Taliban summer assault begins in Afghanistan by killing 18 ANA with large assaulting force
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"Taliban fighters swarmed over Afghan army posts in the country's northeast, killing at least 18 soldiers and beheading some in a major attack to mark the start of the country's summer fighting season, authorities said Monday. The assault marks a grim first summer battle for Afghan forces, now fighting largely alone after the U.S. and NATO ended their combat mission in the country at the start of this year."
Are we at the tipping point, is it time to cut our loses, is our job done, how do we stay at the larger COPs/FOBs and camps without a combat (supporting) role while this is going on, are the ANA really ready? Are you surprised this attack happened, are the foreign fighters convinced we are "done" and just waiting for the calendar to change?
Have we confused the people of Afghanistan with our labeling? The term Talib is a term of honor (relating to a student of Islam/Islamic religion) and we've continued to call those we are fighting "Taliban", which puts us at a disadvantage in the simplest basic means at the boots on the ground level, especially when trying to conduct FID. Are we giving our kids a hornets nest that they will have to confront and finish?
http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-attack-kills-18-afghan-soldiers-beheaded-093811547.html
Are we at the tipping point, is it time to cut our loses, is our job done, how do we stay at the larger COPs/FOBs and camps without a combat (supporting) role while this is going on, are the ANA really ready? Are you surprised this attack happened, are the foreign fighters convinced we are "done" and just waiting for the calendar to change?
Have we confused the people of Afghanistan with our labeling? The term Talib is a term of honor (relating to a student of Islam/Islamic religion) and we've continued to call those we are fighting "Taliban", which puts us at a disadvantage in the simplest basic means at the boots on the ground level, especially when trying to conduct FID. Are we giving our kids a hornets nest that they will have to confront and finish?
http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-attack-kills-18-afghan-soldiers-beheaded-093811547.html
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I think it's going to take the ANA some one on one with them to learn to adapt to their own ways of combating against the Taliban force. I beleieve we have (As a fighting force) against them have had all these years of constructing our own ways to overcoming their spineless attempts at victory. I think one day they'll get it, although I'm not saying it's ever going to end, I'm just saying they'll eventually get in their groove as we have....it's just going to take time. Especially with their lack of resources and man power.
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What we should be doing is committing ourselves to however long it takes... I don't believe we are capable of doing that though... so the best thing we can do is cut our losses (and those of our allies) and leave.Â
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Why is there a sense of hurry? Others have said it, we should learned from what happened in Iraq. Leave a force behind, in case, and strategic foreseeing Iran's stance. On both sides, Iraq and Afghanistan. We could cut potus lavish vacations overseas and *save* enough money for our troops.
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It is a poor way to start the fighting season. I am not quite sure if the ANA knew it was the opening day but they found out. They really need to start stepping it up. We can't be there for every battle. While we are there they really need to put forth their best effort. If they fail we can still help retrain them. I would see that keeping a small force there of trainer would greatly benefit them. If we pull out all together it wouldn't help them stabilize their country.
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They will always be dangerous if we give them the space and time to maneuver, culminating in attacking the ANA or the people.
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I think it's important to note that the Taliban have been an Army longer than the ANA. Also, that Taliban are pretty good at this whole insurgency thing...so I don't think it's completely fair to jump all over the ANA constantly. During the height of OEF there were areas that the U.S. Military couldn't wrestle away from the Taliban and many areas where they gave us absolute fits. I'm not making the case that the ANA are squared, but I also don't think it's appropriate to jump all over a 12 year old army fighting a 25 year old army running an insurgency from an adjacent country...tall order.
Why should we finish the job? How about because we said we would. At some point we lose all credibility when we don't finish what we start.
Why should we finish the job? How about because we said we would. At some point we lose all credibility when we don't finish what we start.
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If we are not capable of defeating the Taliban, the ANA without a doubt will be ineffective against the Taliban. We have spent so much money in Afghanistan that we are running out of funds to continue the mission as we know it.
To fight a counterinsurgency the ANA has to find and kill the Taliban, to fight like the Taliban. The passion of the regular Afghans must be bright and strong to keep them on the offensive, but I doubt this will happen.
George Washington was an insurgent and he grew the Army to the point he could fight the British. If the Taliban reaches a critical mass, there is a great likelihood they will over run the country because the Afghans will be preoccupied societal benefits.
To fight a counterinsurgency the ANA has to find and kill the Taliban, to fight like the Taliban. The passion of the regular Afghans must be bright and strong to keep them on the offensive, but I doubt this will happen.
George Washington was an insurgent and he grew the Army to the point he could fight the British. If the Taliban reaches a critical mass, there is a great likelihood they will over run the country because the Afghans will be preoccupied societal benefits.
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Afghanistan isn't a nation. It's hard for a national army to exist when a Nation does not.
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