Posted on Jan 31, 2016
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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REPORT: The violence started when members of the Iron Order Motorcycle Club, made up of predominantly law enforcement officers, were jumped by members of the Mongols Motorcycle Club, said John C. Whitfield, an attorney representing Iron Order and a member himself. But Las Vegas attorney Stephen Stubbs, who represents the Mongols, said it was Iron Order members who instigated the...brawl."
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29456619/motorcycle-club-lawyer-members-attacked-by-rival-gangs
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Being a veteran who is the President of my own motorcycle club (MC) I have to say this brawl between IO and the Mongols is hardly surprising. I'm in the Reno/Northern Nevada area and there are more than 50 motorcycle organizations around me. I do not condone the "junior high behavior". I see this too much with some organizations. Personal knowledge of IO leads me to believe the mix of personnel (active duty military, veteran, some former convicts and a smattering of civilians not included in the previous groups) is a volatile one. The Mongols have a long history themselves.

Joining an MC is a choice one makes just like we made when deciding what service to go into. Organizations like the VFW riders, American Legion Riders, Combat Veterans Motorcycle Association are good groups for those who want to ride for a purpose. For those who chose to ride solo its a personal choice and one that should be respected by all riders.

MCs were not made to fight and disrupt the community at large. (That doesn't mean some have gone "outlaw" or been corrupted by greed and personal agendas). Most MCs or associations do have military veterans as plank holders or founders, or their ranks are made up of a good population of veterans. They are supposed to be fraternities of people who enjoy motorcycle riding. Each has their own principles and values. They are supposed to be a family, one you can trust and turn to through thick and thin. They should hold you up and the brothers and sisters inside of it should be supporting you. Your life should be improved by this family not dragged into illegal activities and fighting. Didn't we fight and shed enough blood in the defense of our country?
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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SSgt Henry Phillips thanks for weighing in with your unique perspective on this topic. Any experiences with IO?
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One of my oldest Marine Corps brothers is a member of Iron Order in San Deigo. My organization and there's have gotten along fine in the past. I just did a memorial service last week with the Patriot Guard in my area where IO's local chapter showed up and participated. No troubles.
PO1 John Miller
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SSgt Henry Phillips
Do you think that this most recent event puts more eyes on io?
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I believe any incident involving motorcyclists/bikers regardless of any affiliation brings attention to the community as a whole. I'm always getting the surprised look when I'm out and about when I use my manners or go out of my way to offer assistance. The general public doesn't know the difference between a VFW rider or a three piece patch MC member as well as crotch rockets vs cruisers and baggers. What one does in the public eye reflects on the rest of us.
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I would never join a club...just not for me. I am not a solo rider either, I enjoy riding with friends with no ties. What I really enjoy is stopping somewhere or being on the road and others join in meeting new people because of the bike.

Too many people get wrapped up in colors and bikes and forget what riding is all about. They just need to drop all of that and hit the open road and remember why they bought a bike in the first place...freedom.
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***original Comment removed***

I have been asked to refrain from providing any comment on this issue by my organization. I apologize for editing out my response, but it has to be done.
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PO1 John Miller
PO1 John Miller
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I've been thinking about going to a BACA meeting to see what they're all about. They do have a chapter in my area and I have seen them out and about and public events my own association attends, but I didn't have a chance to speak with them. Plus that whole neutrality thing, LOL.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
TSgt Joshua Copeland
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I concur with this!
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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Cpl (Join to see) you and BACA rate at the top of the biker world pecking order because you exist to serve the young and defenseless victims of child abuse, not to promote and perpetuate a self-centered lifestyle. There can be no higher calling. Thanks for all you and other BACA members do.
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SFC Anthony Franke
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Never.
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