I've not formulated all aspects of this in my head. I want to open up the idea of our pay divide, especially among our young troops.
$15 an hour in California and New York for minimum wage
Salaried workers that now go over 40 hours a week will get time and half (there are some "special" rules to this)
$15 an hour will get someone $2400 month
Our junior Soldiers start $1556- $1756 month
$15 an hour in California and New York for minimum wage
Salaried workers that now go over 40 hours a week will get time and half (there are some "special" rules to this)
$15 an hour will get someone $2400 month
Our junior Soldiers start $1556- $1756 month
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I keep seeing people posting about Military wages to a $15 an hour minimum wage. Is this even a valid argument?
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They are incomparable concepts.
The Military is on a "different" pay system than Hourly or even Salary. We're on a Salary PLUS Benefits/Allowances System which makes it impossible to directly compare the systems.
The Military is on a "different" pay system than Hourly or even Salary. We're on a Salary PLUS Benefits/Allowances System which makes it impossible to directly compare the systems.
If you pay minimum wage you recruit minimum wage talent. We put the pressure/guilt on each other to accept our pay and drive on ("you volunteered") but that mentality doesnt recruit talent either. There is definitely room for improvement in my opinion.
Junior soldiers also get free medical care, food money, and pay nothing to stay in the barracks.
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I think health insurance should come with the job, as not many employers would expect me to clean large motor pool oil drums or run in burning tanks to pull others out without some type of "coverage". It keeps the government from being sued from all the injuries that happen.
People in the barracks generally do not get more then a meal card with prescribed hours to eat, and we're not housing the homeless here. The services are taking people out of their homes and neighborhoods, and telling them to almost reinvent themselves and go and be where the services want you. "To protect the interest of the nation at a moments call."
I'm just thinking that the sacrifices are all on the individual's hands that is getting involved and hopefully bettering themselves.
It's disheartening to see my past Soldiers and Service Member todaystruggle to provide/assist family while being able to take a vacation once a year. Comparing this to someone that can go and come as they please that operates a toll booth making $15 an hour.
People in the barracks generally do not get more then a meal card with prescribed hours to eat, and we're not housing the homeless here. The services are taking people out of their homes and neighborhoods, and telling them to almost reinvent themselves and go and be where the services want you. "To protect the interest of the nation at a moments call."
I'm just thinking that the sacrifices are all on the individual's hands that is getting involved and hopefully bettering themselves.
It's disheartening to see my past Soldiers and Service Member todaystruggle to provide/assist family while being able to take a vacation once a year. Comparing this to someone that can go and come as they please that operates a toll booth making $15 an hour.
Pay has always been a hot topic for Soldiers. I believe we are definitely under paid but unfortunately I do not see that changing in my lifetime. Hopefully they figure it out for our future Soldiers.
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The next year budget is giving us a 1.6% raise, which will give you about $40 extra a month. At the same time a loss of 5% BAH is going on also over a projected time line. The civilian market is going up 2.1 or more per (projected). Even the Presidential retirement pay request was sent up at 18% (a total of $3,277,000 for 5 guys once he is out of office $655,400 per), and these people have money and interest set aside (they are not Grant or Thurman)
Additionally, looking macro, we're a group of individuals that have held up higher standards, held to higher expectations, and taken more risk since the group of WW2.
The benefits are slowly starting to slip and slide away. I know they still exist but for how long?
Additionally, looking macro, we're a group of individuals that have held up higher standards, held to higher expectations, and taken more risk since the group of WW2.
The benefits are slowly starting to slip and slide away. I know they still exist but for how long?
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I think health insurance should come with the job, as not many employers would expect me to clean large motor pool oil drums or run in burning tanks to pull others out without some type of "coverage". It keeps the government from being sued from all the injuries that happen.