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We have seen many things about our POTUS that many do not like about him, and while we have all had leaders we did not like, we could usually pick out a few things, or traits/characteristics you could use or emulate.
So, list the things you do like, keep it professional as always. What did momma say? "If you have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing all."
I'll start:
(1) President Obama broke the racial barrier. He earned an education, became a Senator and a lawyer and is now the President.
(2) He has given millions a hope that one day they can do something great, especially those from under privileged areas.
(3) He has largely supported the military until as of recently with the downsizing, which is inevitable in every decade, our leaders have to make cuts...we keep only the best and brightest, right?
(4) He is a very supportive husband and father, and we need strong father role models in today's society where fathers are as rare as a long term-marriage.
I believe he honestly wants good things for America...I don't necessarily agree with the way he is going about it.
(5) He authorized the killing of Osama Bin Laden.
I know there aren't many fans on RP, but if there is something you like, share it if you dare.
So, list the things you do like, keep it professional as always. What did momma say? "If you have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing all."
I'll start:
(1) President Obama broke the racial barrier. He earned an education, became a Senator and a lawyer and is now the President.
(2) He has given millions a hope that one day they can do something great, especially those from under privileged areas.
(3) He has largely supported the military until as of recently with the downsizing, which is inevitable in every decade, our leaders have to make cuts...we keep only the best and brightest, right?
(4) He is a very supportive husband and father, and we need strong father role models in today's society where fathers are as rare as a long term-marriage.
I believe he honestly wants good things for America...I don't necessarily agree with the way he is going about it.
(5) He authorized the killing of Osama Bin Laden.
I know there aren't many fans on RP, but if there is something you like, share it if you dare.
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Unemployment IS down steeply under President Obama:
"The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) tracks six definitions of unemployment from the narrowest (U-1 at 2.7% Seasonally Adjusted in January) to the broadest (U-6 at 11.3% SA). The “official” definition is U-3 (5.7%). None is more correct than the others; everyone picks the metric they prefer.
Clifton could object to use of the U-3. He gives sound reasons why we should use one of the broader measures. That doesn’t mean that the official U-3 is “a big lie”. Do we get to call Gallup’s numbers “lies” if we disagree with their definitions?
Compare the Gallup and BLS numbers
Here is Gallup’s data for January; here is the BLS report. When calculating unemployment Gallup uses as the denominator the population over 18 years old. For U-1 to U-3 BLS uses the civilian non-institutionalized labor force age 16+; for U-4 to U-6 BLS uses broader definitions. Gallup’s are not seasonally adjusted (NSA).
The Gallup definition of unemployment corresponds roughly to the BLS U-5 NSA number: “Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force.”
•Gallup: 7.1%. BLS 7.4%.
The Gallup definition of underemployed corresponds roughly to the BLS U-6 NSA number: “Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force.”
•Gallup: 15.8%. BLS: 12.0%.
Both Gallup and BLS show similar steep declines. Gallup’s unemployment number dropped from 10.9% in January 2010 to 7.1% in January [2015] (-35%). The closest comparable BLS metric (U-5 NSA) declined from 12.0% in January 2010 to 7.4% in January [2015] (-38%).
Which is more accurate? The Gallup survey is 30,000 people. Its accuracy suffers from the increasing number of people using mobile phones or refusing to do surveys (see this about the problems with their 2012 election surveys). The BLS Household Survey is twice the size (60,000), with an elaborate process to ensure accuracy (see details here; see their work to compensate for rising non-response bias).
http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/02/09/jim-clifton-gallup-unemployment-bls-government-lie-78422/
So adjusted for GOP bias, the unemployment rate has declined 38% in the last 5 years.
"The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) tracks six definitions of unemployment from the narrowest (U-1 at 2.7% Seasonally Adjusted in January) to the broadest (U-6 at 11.3% SA). The “official” definition is U-3 (5.7%). None is more correct than the others; everyone picks the metric they prefer.
Clifton could object to use of the U-3. He gives sound reasons why we should use one of the broader measures. That doesn’t mean that the official U-3 is “a big lie”. Do we get to call Gallup’s numbers “lies” if we disagree with their definitions?
Compare the Gallup and BLS numbers
Here is Gallup’s data for January; here is the BLS report. When calculating unemployment Gallup uses as the denominator the population over 18 years old. For U-1 to U-3 BLS uses the civilian non-institutionalized labor force age 16+; for U-4 to U-6 BLS uses broader definitions. Gallup’s are not seasonally adjusted (NSA).
The Gallup definition of unemployment corresponds roughly to the BLS U-5 NSA number: “Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force.”
•Gallup: 7.1%. BLS 7.4%.
The Gallup definition of underemployed corresponds roughly to the BLS U-6 NSA number: “Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force.”
•Gallup: 15.8%. BLS: 12.0%.
Both Gallup and BLS show similar steep declines. Gallup’s unemployment number dropped from 10.9% in January 2010 to 7.1% in January [2015] (-35%). The closest comparable BLS metric (U-5 NSA) declined from 12.0% in January 2010 to 7.4% in January [2015] (-38%).
Which is more accurate? The Gallup survey is 30,000 people. Its accuracy suffers from the increasing number of people using mobile phones or refusing to do surveys (see this about the problems with their 2012 election surveys). The BLS Household Survey is twice the size (60,000), with an elaborate process to ensure accuracy (see details here; see their work to compensate for rising non-response bias).
http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/02/09/jim-clifton-gallup-unemployment-bls-government-lie-78422/
So adjusted for GOP bias, the unemployment rate has declined 38% in the last 5 years.
Are government unemployment numbers a "big lie"?
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SPC Brandon Spray
Unemployment numbers are false! That biggest down fall about statistics, anyone can change a couple of numbers to get the result they want. Umemployment rate is actually closer to 13% if not more. They don't count people that have just given up on looking for work. They don't count full-time students either.
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SPC Don Stringer
They continue to over count seasonal jobs, and they fail to mention most jobs being created are in the service sector, which tend to be low paying with little advancement. Not careers. Also, there are 2 new immigrants added for every job added.
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Capt Walter Miller
The Gallup definition of underemployed corresponds roughly to the BLS U-6 NSA number: “Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force.”
•Gallup: 15.8%. BLS: 12.0%.
Both Gallup and BLS show similar steep declines. Gallup’s unemployment number dropped from 10.9% in January 2010 to 7.1% in January [2015] (-35%). The closest comparable BLS metric (U-5 NSA) declined from 12.0% in January 2010 to 7.4% in January [2015] (-38%).
Unemployment is down steeply since President Obama took office.
•Gallup: 15.8%. BLS: 12.0%.
Both Gallup and BLS show similar steep declines. Gallup’s unemployment number dropped from 10.9% in January 2010 to 7.1% in January [2015] (-35%). The closest comparable BLS metric (U-5 NSA) declined from 12.0% in January 2010 to 7.4% in January [2015] (-38%).
Unemployment is down steeply since President Obama took office.
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No racial barrier was broken. People still complain about color, discrimination and so forth.
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
What I meant by that comment was thst America voted for a Black President...so in that aspect, he broke racial barriers...that none had previously done.
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Ouch, I think he is doing the best with the bullshit he got handed with.
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- He repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." I know this is controversial territory, but I'm a firm believer in egalitarianism which by definition must include homosexuals.
- He increased support for veterans by cleaning house at the VA and increasing funding. Reform at the VA is ongoing, but good steps have been made and more money for veterans seeking help is always a good thing in my book.
- He saw that Osama Bin Laden paid for his act of war. Yeah, he wasn't personally responsible and didn't personally kill him, but he was the Commander in Chief when the raid went down and if he's going to be blamed for everything bad that happens on his watch then he deserves to take some credit for the good.
- He's made us less reliant on foreign oil. Under his watch our nation is now the worlds top oil producer which from a strategic, geopolitical, and financial perspective is fantastic.
I could add more, but four seems like a good number, and I look forward to seeing what our next President accomplishes during their term(s).
- He increased support for veterans by cleaning house at the VA and increasing funding. Reform at the VA is ongoing, but good steps have been made and more money for veterans seeking help is always a good thing in my book.
- He saw that Osama Bin Laden paid for his act of war. Yeah, he wasn't personally responsible and didn't personally kill him, but he was the Commander in Chief when the raid went down and if he's going to be blamed for everything bad that happens on his watch then he deserves to take some credit for the good.
- He's made us less reliant on foreign oil. Under his watch our nation is now the worlds top oil producer which from a strategic, geopolitical, and financial perspective is fantastic.
I could add more, but four seems like a good number, and I look forward to seeing what our next President accomplishes during their term(s).
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SGT (Join to see)
I must say that although I dont agree with point #1 I can say I respect all of the above views with the exception of #4. If you think it was Obama that decreased our dependence on foreign energy rather then the "villainous" private sector , despite liberal efforts to stifle oil and coal innovations you are greatly mistaken. Do more research please.
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He has a good personality. I think he has done a good job of keeping his daughters out of the limelight. As far as our Commander In Chief, I don't think he knows what to with the worlds problems. He won't make any decisions on his own. I know he has to go through the chain of command, but he's the big link. He's our CIC and I respect that, but he also makes a lot of poor decisions. I really think ever since FDR, all of the presidents are pretty equal in the way they handle the job. FDR was, in my opinion, the greatest president this country has ever had.
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Like you said...... if you can't say something nice... so I'm not saying anything at all aside of him being the first minority POTUS.
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You voted me down Sir!?!?! Fine. I respect the office of the President. I will gladly go where ever the current occupant sends me, after all I signed up voluntarily.
I like that he gave the green light to kill bin Laden and the Somali Pirates.
Now please remove your down vote Sir!!! COL (Join to see)
I like that he gave the green light to kill bin Laden and the Somali Pirates.
Now please remove your down vote Sir!!! COL (Join to see)
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Sorry, I cannot play along.
I am around active, reserve, and retired veterans ALL THE TIME - hundreds of them. Biker rallies, VFW, Marine Corps League, American Legions, and more. I have *YET* to hear *ONE* person who supports this president or thinks favorably.
The people I speak with are from several diversity groups, men and women, young and old, alike.
I am around active, reserve, and retired veterans ALL THE TIME - hundreds of them. Biker rallies, VFW, Marine Corps League, American Legions, and more. I have *YET* to hear *ONE* person who supports this president or thinks favorably.
The people I speak with are from several diversity groups, men and women, young and old, alike.
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