Posted on May 16, 2016
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I know this is very vague, but the reason I ask is that while working on a recent project I was talking to an NCO at a nearby ARNG Cav Unit and the topic of Stetson's, etc. came up. The person I was talking to got very disgruntled and said they were Infantry. Color me confused. Is there someone who can help me out?
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My dad was in the 1st Cav/12th Cav Rgt/F Troop in 1937-39 at Ft Ringgild TX. He was very proud of his service there. One of the last true horse cav detachments according to him. I understand that horses were actually in theater in the Philippines in WWII. Semper Paratus
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
My father was in the OHARNG’s Horse Cavalry in 1930. He told of cleaning the horses before chow after a long day.
Does anyone out there watch Huell Howser? He hosted a California travel show until his passing. His videos were all given to Chapman University in Orange, CA. They can be accessed on the net.(And beyond my expertise to share with you).
One of his shows featured “old” Horse Cavalry Soldiers that had trained with that, unit East of San Diego in 1941/42. The video includes films of that unit training in that era.
Does anyone out there watch Huell Howser? He hosted a California travel show until his passing. His videos were all given to Chapman University in Orange, CA. They can be accessed on the net.(And beyond my expertise to share with you).
One of his shows featured “old” Horse Cavalry Soldiers that had trained with that, unit East of San Diego in 1941/42. The video includes films of that unit training in that era.
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Frank Garrett
I heard similar stories from my dad too, CSM Hayden. He told of being on maneuvers in Texas with the Cav and Infantry. The troopers would laugh at the Inf hoofing it and humping their packs. But at camp, the Inf would finally arrive and get chow, but the troopers had to care for their mounts first.
My dad on the left with the bananas and in the second pic, on the right.
Unknown names of the others. I do remember him mentioning one guy they called Frenchy.
My dad on the left with the bananas and in the second pic, on the right.
Unknown names of the others. I do remember him mentioning one guy they called Frenchy.
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Because not all Cavalry are on the ground. The 6th Cavalry is pure Air Cavalry with Apaches instead of Bradley's. As a unit designated as Cavalry, the majority of its personnel are Aviation Branch affiliated with a sprinkling of QM, AG, OD and others to round things out. In addition there are hybred Cavalry units made up of both ground and air elements. By doctrine all provide screening, flanking and reconnaissance missions on the battlefield.
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Infantrymen and officers can wear Stetsons if they are part of a cavalry unit. In 1 CD, the infantry combined arms battalions are part of cavalry regiments (I.e. 1-12 Cavalry Regiment, not Infantry Regiment). So, even non 19 series can wear Stetsons in these types of units. Even in an IBCT, where most of the brigade's battalions are part of an infantry regiment , the 11C in the IBCT's cavalry squadron can wear a Stetson (but probably only if you force them)
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CW2 (Join to see)
People open up a lot more to the Stetson if they can get their branch's color cord for it. Let the 11s wear their blue cord instead of yellow and it works more often
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No there is a mixture of infantry and armor. However it is predominantly armor MOS
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SGM Erik Marquez
LTC (Join to see) Sir I can only assume your statement does not mean what I think it does... As Fort Hood, HBCT most certainly has a mix of 19K tankers and 11 series Infantry. An infantry battalion is a mix of 3 Infantry company and a Armor company. By MTOE the companies are not Mixed MOS, but in three combat pre deployment and actual deployment we saw Infantry companies that had one platoon removed and an Armor platoon added, giving the Infantry company a 1/3 mix, and the Armor company a 3/ 1 mix.
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LTC (Join to see)
SGM Erik Marquez - SGM I should have been more detailed to the response. Yes I agree with you. All is dependent on the the particular organization. Having been light in the armor community specifically LRS. We were a squadron with just one infantry company. Our A and B troop were composed of 19D and our C Troop was the infantry company.
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So when coming across various Troops, either Active or ARNG, how would one know if it was a Cav Troop or Infantry, etc? I'm assuming if a Cav Squadron is part of an Infantry Brigade Combat team that Squadron is infantry?
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MAJ (Join to see)
I suppose the real answer to your question is you would know based on their guidon/colors/uniforms/MTOE/etc.
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COL (Join to see)
Cavalry Squadrons in Infantry Brigade Combat Teams are 19D heavy. The "Scout Platoon" of an Infantry Battalion inside of an Infantry Brigade Combat Team consists of 11B's.
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SPC David OLin
I was a 19D in a "Scout Platoon" assigned to a Infantry Battalion. Has that TO&E changed??
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CW2 (Join to see)
The Infantry company in a Cavalry Squadron is still called a Troop. C Troops are much smaller than a typical Infantry Company.
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