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I have a Soldier who has not passed a PT in appoximately 4 years. In that time, she has gotten Pregnant twice. I have only been her NCO for 8 months. I have tried to Motivate her to did deeper, counseled her(both verbally and on paper). She has made progress each PT Test, but still continues not pass. During the last PT Test she still improved on her run, but again did not pass. Her run times increase by 1 approx. 1 min and 30 secs everytime. I have forced her to run with me after work on days that I can make myself available, and on weekends. i can honestly say that I do not believe the effort or want is there. During the last PT Test, she was aware that if she failed, the Command would push for a Chapter. Once the Soldier finished the run, she was walking normally, and completed her Height and Weight. The Soldier later sent a text saying her foot was hurting and was going to go see the Medics. After Medical examination, the Medics found her foot to be broken. The Soldeir claimed it happened during the run. The Medic stated that it did not look consistant with an injury that would come from a run, and looked like an injury of someone dropping something on their foot. After, I can distinctly remember the Soldier looking to be in pain during the entire run. I can not prove or disprove when the injury occured or how. Legal, through the packet out, I was not told why, I'm guessing because they feel that because the soldier injured herself during the run, that being the reason she failed, it was not fair to her to be Chaptered. Just wondering what everyone elses thoughts are.
Posted 11 y ago
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Soldiers get chaptered for anything nowadays if they are thought by their command as not being good enough to have around. Soldiers comply with standards or find a new home. Soldiers Don't take up space just because they need it. They prove their worth constantly. And sorry to say, a lot of leaders spend more time trying to get rid of their problems than putting the effort of correcting the problem. It all comes down to the individual, they really want it or they don't. Living on sympathy is no life at all.
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I'm against chaptering entirely. I was chaptered under dubious circumstances. Lost my G.I. Bill. Lost college fund. That was after four years of qualifying expert and scoring 290 and above on the PFT every time we had to take it. I lost my college fund. I lost the G.I. Bill. And in the end, my discharge was mostly reversed by the review board. It's as though they knew it was all bullshit. So, yeah, I'm against chaptering someone out.
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I used to ask myself, how much time am I taking away from my motivated soldiers by putting extra effort into a specific soldier? There is a braking point (no pun intended). Is your dedication to her woh the time you are taking away from your good soldiers
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I think you answered your own question with your comment, "I can honestly say that I do not believe the effort or want is there." If that is what you really believe, there is no need for discussion or second guessing.
It seems to me that the you and your chain of command have given her every opportunity. I think it is time to do what is necessary and move on. My opinion is that, if she ever gets to the point of passing the PT Test, the cycle will simple start over.
I think you answered your own question with your comment, "I can honestly say that I do not believe the effort or want is there." If that is what you really believe, there is no need for discussion or second guessing.
It seems to me that the you and your chain of command have given her every opportunity. I think it is time to do what is necessary and move on. My opinion is that, if she ever gets to the point of passing the PT Test, the cycle will simple start over.
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I Understand not passing a pt test after a pregnancy the first year might be a little difficult but 4 years is a little ridiculous ...... i got onto the AWCP and they were quick to kick me out but we have a female that was on AWCP and PT failure and they were doing anything to keep her in and she is a one of the laziest soldiers ive seen..... my opinion chapter
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Unfortunately the military is not for everyone. Go with the facts at hand. I have a feeling that 4 years turns in to 6 and so on. SSG (Join to see) you've done what you can.
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