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A while ago I asked about best places to retire. Some said you wouldn't think to foresake our country. In an avalanche of "what if" scenarios where the US becomes something other than what it's "supposed to be"and Chile adopted the US Constitution (pre-socialism) and the ideals that made this country great, would you remain committed to the North American land mass between Canada and Mexico?
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Can't imagine losing our Constitutional protections and process. There are plenty of people in our nation who say they're patriots, but their values are simply bigotry and fear. It's important to strengthen our democratic republic, so we can prevent our country falling away from freedom.
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Capt Michael Greene - Sure, however you have to phrase it. So your answer is, it's not restricted to a land mass.
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Capt Michael Greene
MSG (Join to see) - Besides being filled with natural resources protected by two giant oceans, "America" is a set of ideals. I will never leave those ideals. I will fight for them, wherever I am.
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CPT Pedro Meza
Capt Michael Greene - You need to look up the 1939 short story by Robert Heinlein "If this Goes On" About a christian religious dictator that takes control of the US prior to 2100. You can find that story combined in the book Revolt in 2100 and Methuselah's Children.
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CPT Pedro Meza
If This Goes On— - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"If This Goes On—" is a science fiction short novel by Robert A. Heinlein, first serialized in 1940 in Astounding Science-Fiction and revised and expanded for inclusion in the 1953 collection Revolt in 2100. The novel shows what might happen to Christianity in the United States given mass communications, applied psychology, and a hysterical populace. The novel is part of Heinlein's Future History series.
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America is an ideal - it has no bounds. It's the belief that all people are created equal, that we are endowed by our creator certain unalienable rights. That we are born with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It's also a belief that brave men and women will protect these ideals from anyone who dare threaten it. ;)
My hope is that America's freedoms expand far out beyond our country to others. Though they may not be "Americans" - they may adopt similar if not near identical rights and freedoms.
My hope is that America's freedoms expand far out beyond our country to others. Though they may not be "Americans" - they may adopt similar if not near identical rights and freedoms.
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LTJG (Join to see)
I'd remain here and fight for the American people, those I am sworn and bound to protect. Until this country's government becomes so corrupt that it turns on its own people, I am here to stay. Even then, if and when that day comes, you can expect to see me at the forefront of the revolution, holding the constitution in hand - circled in it the American peoples' right to overthrow a corrupt government and demand it begin anew.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
I have no intention of going anywhere else to live ever ! from 1640 up until now in 2016 and from the French and Indian war, the American Revolution and up to me in Viet Nam My family has fought in all those wars except the civil war. i have no intention either of abandoning our democracy and way of life. That is 366 years My family has lived here and in Massachusetts. I object to anyone that threatens what many of us have fought for.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
for certain, I'm not moving or surrendering My rights IAW the US Constitution just as its written !
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MSG (Join to see)
You see that's the false choice many are defaulting to. What is the fight is in Congress and all acts are done via legal means via the vote and everything is radically changed? When the masses vote in ideologies that you do not agree with, whether extreme Right or Extreme Left, and you've lost because of the legal ballot, is it still America?
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CPT Pedro Meza
MSG (Join to see) - the false choice is that it appears that you have bought into that ideology, so it is best for you to leave so that those that remain can deal with it. Yes it is still what you call America, because America from the beginning is about change,
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The U.S. is my adopted homeland. I gave up my birth citizenship after I immigrated to the U.S.
I am currently working in a special duty assignment working with State Dept. at different embassies. Regardless of the anti-U.S. foreign government sponsored rhetoric the one constant I see is foreigners wanting to immigrate to the U.S. The reason is simple. We, America, represent the best opportunities. I love my country and will do anything in my power to ensure its continued success and progress.
I am currently working in a special duty assignment working with State Dept. at different embassies. Regardless of the anti-U.S. foreign government sponsored rhetoric the one constant I see is foreigners wanting to immigrate to the U.S. The reason is simple. We, America, represent the best opportunities. I love my country and will do anything in my power to ensure its continued success and progress.
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MSG (Join to see)
Are the people migrating over because they want the "land of the free; home of the brave", opportunity, etc or because they love the geographical features like Louisiana swamps, Rocky Mountain peaks, our deserts, beaches and the changing of the fall colors in New England?
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I can't speak for others but for me it was because I was 6 years old and my parents were granted an immigrant visa to the U.S. For my parents it was because America did/does represent "the land of the free; home of the brave". They were leaving behind a communist regime, civil war, rampant inflation, persecution because of their political beliefs and a myriad of other reasons.
As far as it becoming a ""what if" scenarios where the US becomes something other than what it's "supposed to be""', well, my good Sir, that would depend on what you definition of "supposed to be" is.
As a liberal you have a view of what America is "supposed to be."
As a conservative you have a view of what America is "supposed to be."
I personally believe the Constitution has already defined what America is "supposed to be." Public opinion has decided to put it's own spin on what it is America is "supposed to be."
As far as it becoming a ""what if" scenarios where the US becomes something other than what it's "supposed to be""', well, my good Sir, that would depend on what you definition of "supposed to be" is.
As a liberal you have a view of what America is "supposed to be."
As a conservative you have a view of what America is "supposed to be."
I personally believe the Constitution has already defined what America is "supposed to be." Public opinion has decided to put it's own spin on what it is America is "supposed to be."
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MSG (Join to see)
SFC (Join to see) - Were they leaving a geographical area or a political ideology?
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MSG (Join to see) In reality they were doing both, leaving a geographic area and a political ideology. But, to answer your question, yes, they were leaving for political reasons.
One of many differences between the US and most other countries is the transfer of power i.e. president to president, congress to congress, governor to governor, mayor to mayor. Our greatest defense to to a coup or our government going all "Crazy King George III" on us is our succession of power and maybe a little bit of our love of bureaucracy.
One of many differences between the US and most other countries is the transfer of power i.e. president to president, congress to congress, governor to governor, mayor to mayor. Our greatest defense to to a coup or our government going all "Crazy King George III" on us is our succession of power and maybe a little bit of our love of bureaucracy.
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To me America is an ideal. The United States is the land mass. If other countries adopted our way of life, I'd be open to relocation. But things would have to be really really bad here for me to leave.
Primarily because I still see this as the land of opportunity. I still see this as a place where you can set out and pursue the American Dream of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I'm not so star-spangle blinded that I can't see this Country is without it's flaws, but I do not believe it is as bad as people think it is.
Primarily because I still see this as the land of opportunity. I still see this as a place where you can set out and pursue the American Dream of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I'm not so star-spangle blinded that I can't see this Country is without it's flaws, but I do not believe it is as bad as people think it is.
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Its kind of a goofy question but her it goes. In light of Tulsa OK I'd would follow the ideal. Be cause on this land mass white men are f@cking it up. Wells Fargo Bank, North Dakota ,Flint "We the people" are not getting our just due. Maybe our ideal somewhere else will work.
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MSG (Join to see)
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume your vitriol is aimed at the shootings of Blacks by cops in the news as of late? If so, where do you believe it's better?
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I'm staying in Kansas. When the giant floods come and the super volcano explodes in Yellowstone I figure I'll be ok.
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I'm here until I die, in a pile ff brass of necessary. If America expands, fine. If she stays the same, also fine. I enjoy visiting other nations, but just because they adopt the concept or ideals doesn't make their respective nation America. We have a history and culture all our own. It isn't always great but it's ours.
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So if the US government via legislative process votes and enacts that starting 01 January 2018, that the Constitution will be replaced by a Constitution along the lines of Canada and Thailand's Constitutions ... This will still be America to you?
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