Posted on May 10, 2015
GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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This is NOT a Muslim-bashing discussion ... please keep your comments on-point and professional. Thanks!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-muslims-ask-why-their-religions-condemnation-of-violence-often-goes-unheard/ar-BBjvsiT
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
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Maybe its because the acceptance and encouragement from the radicalized side....without those radicalized being publicly disowned.....you go forward with a whisper of condemnation after airplanes full of people are used as weapons to destroy 3,000 lives and wonder why you aren't taken seriously, give me a break, question disregarded as nonsense.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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I agree wholeheartedly CSM Michael J. Uhlig.
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SPC Carl K.
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Sorry, I posted my response as a reply to your comment. I am reposting the response.
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SGT Kevin Gardner
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CSM, you said it before me so thanks for saying it, saved me the typing.
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I didn't hear any whisper condemnations, I did see lot's of condemnations though... most were not carried on the news. I guess if it's not on CNN, MSNBC or Fox it didn't happen?

If some crazy person goes out and screams Jesus is Great before killing a bunch of people, do you really expect Christian religious leaders to fall over themselves disowning the perpetrator? I don't, because it's not necessary. We know that persons actions do not reflect Christianity, and most Muslims know that persons actions do not reflect Islam.

It seems to me that this demand that Muslim leaders fall over themselves condemning violent extremists is a form of bigotry against Muslims. It should go without saying that reasonable, God fearing religious people would condemn such acts of violence. That said, there should be no expectation that people held in subjugation should not celebrate any harm that comes to the people they believe to be their subjugators... doesn't matter if their Muslim, Christian or Buddhist.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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If Muslims want to show their religion is truly peaceful they should be putting some distance between them and the extremists and letting the public see and hear it. Other religious groups do when extremists try to take the spotlight so why shouldn't they? A few little whimpers of protest doesn't go far. They need a strong front man with credibility to denounce the extremists.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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The standard I hold them to is the Nisei during WW2. When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, thousands of Nisei showed up at enlistment depots to join up...to fight the JAPANESE. And when they were herded into concentration camps, they STILL maintained their loyalty to this nation. When the Muslim community in the US starts showing even a fraction of that dedication to this nation, then I'll take them seriously. Until then it's all lip service.
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SPC Angel Guma
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca That is exactly true. If they organized their peace protests so that it showed a new level of seriousness, it would go a long way
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
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I love that comparison you make LTC Paul Labrador. very fitting!!
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SPC Angel Guma
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In a way yes, it is a valid question. Many Muslims do condemn violence, and believe it or not there are many near secular Muslims out there, who are basically Muslims in name only, and not any of the radical stuff that the Taliban embraces. The problem with these 'peaceful' Muslims is that they don't condemn violence in an organized way. They think either being silent or condemning violence individually will absolve them for what their brothers do. What they are missing is an organized way to condemn violence, and until they step up to do that, it'll be hard for Mainstreet America to not ask questions here and there about their intentions.
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GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad
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Excellent point SPC Angel Guma --- appreciate the feedback!
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MAJ Anthony DeStefano
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I have never heard of a moderate cleric who condemned the actions of the extremists...The fact is they either condone it as a necessary evil and means to an end (the universal Caliphate) or are so afraid of condemnation they keep quiet either way it is an error of omission.
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