Posted on Oct 12, 2014
US Airways Refuses to take jacket of Army Ranger...big deal or so what?
12.3K
257
105
5
4
1
Did the flight attendant aboard US Airways commit such a huge offense by not hanging this Soldier's jacket? I think the smart thing for the stewardess to do would have been just to take the jacket and hang it up. At least she could have shown him that much respect. However, does it rise to such an offense that Judge Jeanine Pirro from Fox News says the airline should "lose the privilege of calling itself United States Air"? The airline did apologize after all and this is the mistake of an individual, not airline policy. So is this still a huge deal that the airline should pay for or just the act of a single employee?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/11/us-airways-slammed-after-flight-attendant-refuses-hang-army-ranger-jacket/?intcmp=latestnews
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/11/us-airways-slammed-after-flight-attendant-refuses-hang-army-ranger-jacket/?intcmp=latestnews
Uniforms
Respect
Posted 11 y ago
Responses: 38
2
2
0
At first blush, I thought this was a big deal, but after reading some of the comments, I think it's overblown. We should have the discussion, but not allow the topic to become just that, overblown. He was, after all, offered first class seats and refused them.
Like many other stories, there's likely more to this than we know. For example, the story says: "Marle's parents told the station that their son has been wearing his uniform at job interviews around the country and say his dream is to become a doctor." Say what?
Like many other stories, there's likely more to this than we know. For example, the story says: "Marle's parents told the station that their son has been wearing his uniform at job interviews around the country and say his dream is to become a doctor." Say what?
(2)
(0)
2
2
0
Yeah, listen...this has gotten way out of hand among the general public. As a disclaimer, I am a US Airways corporate employee (now American). Poor service in any industry is a problem, and we take it very seriously. I won't stand here and defend what she did, but I'm not going to criticize it to the extent that I've seen all the shock jocks on TV do. What they won't tell you is that the FAA strictly regulates many parts of what happens inside the plane, such as the whole "no three belongings rule"...yes, we airlines are liable to be fined if you bring more than two separate items onto the plane, which is they won't let you do it.
That being said, I doubt that use of the stewardess' closet is a highly regulated thing, and I've been allowed to hang my uniform in their a few times. But everyone needs to step back and take a look at the big picture; did the flight attendant make a mistake in the course of her highly stressful job of getting butts in seats, making sure people aren't doing dumb things with their luggage, and operating their seat belts correctly? Yes. Does the airline deserve to have "US" removed from its title, and should the stewardess be exposed to Ebola as a certain idiotic "Judge" on Fox News would tell us? Give me a break.
God bless that Soldier for not making a scene, and damn all the pundits who sit there and overreact just to get bonus points and higher ratings. So sick of it.
That being said, I doubt that use of the stewardess' closet is a highly regulated thing, and I've been allowed to hang my uniform in their a few times. But everyone needs to step back and take a look at the big picture; did the flight attendant make a mistake in the course of her highly stressful job of getting butts in seats, making sure people aren't doing dumb things with their luggage, and operating their seat belts correctly? Yes. Does the airline deserve to have "US" removed from its title, and should the stewardess be exposed to Ebola as a certain idiotic "Judge" on Fox News would tell us? Give me a break.
God bless that Soldier for not making a scene, and damn all the pundits who sit there and overreact just to get bonus points and higher ratings. So sick of it.
(2)
(0)
2
2
0
Is it worthy of all of the publicity and embarrassment of this attendant and the airline? No! We are supposed to be quiet professionals. While the outpouring of support is heartfelt it is not why we serve.
(2)
(0)
2
2
0
Another non-event. The airline attendant followed policy and he didn't seem to mind too much, so why should we? There are more important things to worry about.
(2)
(0)
2
2
0
She followed company policy. We expect our service members to follow (legal) orders, why should we get our noses bent out of shape when others do the same thing?
(2)
(0)
2
2
0
He's my question. Why was he in uniform in the first place? Correct me if I'm wrong, but per the regulations aren't you only suppose to fly in uniform when on official travel? According to the article, his family said he was wearing it to job interviews which are not part of any official military business. Has anyone vetted this guy out? Let's not forget the story of the fake Marine who wore a uniform and got a seat from a famous sports star. Not saying this is the case with this guy but really; who would wear their uniform to job interviews? Just my two cents.
(2)
(0)
SGT Ben Keen
If he is the real deal, I trust me I hope he is. I wish someone would help him some better interview techniques. As you stated 1SG Chris Brown, your military service is all over your resume, there is no need to wear it. If he doesn't have a suit, he should get one. 99.9% of the employers respect the service we give to our country but they want to see how you will mix in with everyone else. Wearing your Class As doesn't really convey the image of you fitting in with everyone else.
(2)
(0)
CW5 (Join to see)
Good point about wearing his uniform to job interviews, SGT Ben Keen. That jumped out at me in the story as well.
(0)
(0)
MAJ Ronnie Reams
Do you still have to fly in uniform to get the military standby discount? That was the rule when I was in.
(0)
(0)
MSG (Join to see)
There really isn't a military (or civilian for that matter) standby fare on commercial airlines these days, at least not for most of the major airlines. Some do offer military fares for leisure travel, but it's not quite the same thing.
(1)
(0)
2
2
0
Why couldnt the fool just do it himself??? the tab doesnt make you special, at least mine never did.I think it was the ranger who showed disrespect by making an issue of it, you want respect, you have to show respect.
(2)
(0)
1SG Chris Brown
The Soldier actually never showed any disrespect. He didn't make any issue of it at all that I've seen. Another passenger is the one who brought it up as an issue, not the Soldier.
(1)
(0)
SGT Michael Glenn
Should never have asked in the 1st place, he puts his pants on the same as anyone else, he can stow his belongings like anyone else.
(0)
(0)
2
2
0
I think we can see how the passengers are the ones irritated with this. First, the 1SG was not interviewed in any outlet that I have seen. Further, if so, I think he would have corrected them. He is not a Ranger (even though he is Ranger qualified according to his uniform....maybe it would be better to say he is not JUST a Ranger)....he is a long-tabber. You would think that they would want to run with the SF thing over Ranger.
From what I can tell, the flight attendant was probably a bit overzealous in following the policy in this case, but is it really worth this much? It is nice that the first class passenger assisted him like he did, but I don't see a SNCO acting in an entitled manner. I feel like he probably asked and others overheard and raised the issue. Those who are saying that he was acting entitled are drawing conclusions that are not based in the story. He turned down two first class passengers in their offer to trade him seats. I don't see how that is acting entitled in the slightest.
From what I can tell, the flight attendant was probably a bit overzealous in following the policy in this case, but is it really worth this much? It is nice that the first class passenger assisted him like he did, but I don't see a SNCO acting in an entitled manner. I feel like he probably asked and others overheard and raised the issue. Those who are saying that he was acting entitled are drawing conclusions that are not based in the story. He turned down two first class passengers in their offer to trade him seats. I don't see how that is acting entitled in the slightest.
(2)
(0)
2
2
0
This previously started thread might be useful in your discussion as well.
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/have-soldiers-developed-a-sense-of-entitlement
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/have-soldiers-developed-a-sense-of-entitlement
Have Soldiers developed a sense of entitlement? | RallyPoint
I am sure many of you have seen recent articles about a 1SG that was initially refused when he asked to have his ASU top hung up while flying. He was told no, that that was a first class perk. People offered up their seats, so on and so forth. I can't honestly say I have read anything that said the Soldier was outraged, more so the other passengers. I am not saying that the 1SG feels entitled and asking to hang up his jacket is an entitlement,...
(2)
(0)
MAJ (Join to see)
So what. Arguing this as a servicemember is not selfless service. Dually, we all have a right to opinions. Veterans certainly do.
(0)
(0)
Suspended Profile
While it may have been crude of her to deny his request when it was a small request, policy is policy and at the end of the day she did her job and he was an adult about the situation. I would rather have to iron/steam my uniform after landing at my destination than cause a scene and receive the repercussions for that. It sounds like the entire situation was blown out of proportion.
Read This Next
Continue with Facebook 
Continue with Google