Posted on Aug 11, 2015
US jet crashes in Germany: Does this affect relations with the country?
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What affect on US military policy in foreign countries does us having training accidents or crashes have in those locations?
Specifically, a crash in Germany with no people injured (other than maybe the ejecting pilot). Will this still cause political issues for a US military presence and bases in Germany?
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-jet-crashes-southern-germany-2047924
Specifically, a crash in Germany with no people injured (other than maybe the ejecting pilot). Will this still cause political issues for a US military presence and bases in Germany?
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-military-jet-crashes-southern-germany-2047924
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I agree but accidents in other countries haven't gone so well. When do they decide to use it as a tool? I'm not worried about our relationship with Germany, but if this happened in a more contentious country I would be.
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As an active duty CSM here at Graf, I do not think this will cause problems at the national level and we've developed some very strong relationships at the local level here at Graf. We had the privilege to be one of the first units called to respond and our Soldiers handled the mission in an exemplary manner while we awaited the crash investigation teams arrival....this really shows the importance of developing a relationship with the communities surrounding your base! I foresee no drastic impact of this accident.
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig That is great news all around. I completely agree that the way we present ourselves and the local relationship is very important. Not having a good relationship to start with could make a similar situation potentially have a different result.
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This is not the first aircraft to crash at an international air show.... there is a memorial outside Ramstein Air Base for a crash that killed spectators in addition to air crew.... Canadian Snow Birds crashed in MT a number of years ago.... there are many others, some with "good reasons", some with less acceptable reasons (like the Russian that crashed and it was discovered he had something like 10 hours per year fly time....). Investigation will be done, blame will be placed, people and governments will move on.
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I would hope not. Afterall from the article I read, he wasn't carrying live munitions they were trainers, and he jettisoned his fuel tanks over an unpopulated area. He made a conscious effort to make the minimal amount of damage possible. Accidents happen.
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I don't think that it does. The USG will be looking at some property damage claims but I don't think it strains the political relationship.
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Yes it does. A crash in 89/90, an A-10 I think, changed the way we were "allowed" to train for ever. No more "low-level" if I remember correctly. Right before Desert Storm too.
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In 2010 I was on a survey team assisting mortuary affairs with a blackhawk crash in Mannheim. It's an unfortunate part of having our military in europe. It will not affect our relationship with Germany.
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I highly doubt this would cause negative relations. Most likely it will have either no effect or a positive one. People(s) are able to bond and "come together" when working in the aftermath of an accident or tragedy.
I just doubt there will be any real national relations repercussions from this incident.
I just doubt there will be any real national relations repercussions from this incident.
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No it does not. It's just the nature of the beast and during the 7 years I was in Germany, the German government was a partner in assisting with aircraft accidents as were we when the situations were reversed.
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