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So yesterday we were sitting through probably the 5th brief I've had lately on the new OER system when a question occurred to me and another fellow warrant. It was brought up in the discussion that under the new regulation that all Majors must be senior rated by a COL (O6) or higher. That got us thinking that as CW3s (also field grades) what is the minimum senior rater requirement? We pulled up the new reg and was a little surprised to see that all warrants (WO1-CW5 only have a senior rater requirement of MAJ). I was also even more shocked to discover that according to the regulation, a 2LT could actually rate a CW5.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div>
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I am a W01 love the rank and respect. Warrant Officers are keepers of the knowledge.
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The CW3, 4, or 5 should be rated by his/her superior. It is determined by the assignment. I worked for a flag officer who provided input to my O-5 officer. Performance reporting is what matters.
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Been out of the business for a while now but AV Warrants are beginning to sound like Air Force peeps - ‘don’t like your rarer/SR, find another one’. My dad was a QM CW4, he’d have been insulted to be called a ‘field grade warrant’, he thought he was better than that (and was most certainly correct in his field!).
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On a nicer note, warrant officers in my opinion are like SENIOR SNCO. Those with such a high technical knowledge of their trade that they commission for their specific rating. That being said. According to the ranking structure, it goes E1-E9, then W1-CWO5, O1-O10. Enlisted follow orders of warrants and officers. Warrants obey orders of officers.
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CWO2 Richard Rose
Ensign Trey Shadow, FYI in the Navy CWO's are commissioned officers and you would be advised to remember that. You may be senior in paygrade, but you might want to learn about the role the Chief Warrant Officer plays in the Navy. The CWO is a treasure trove of experience and knowledge that can help tremendously in your career. The CWO comes from the Chief's Mess and provides a different prospective to the wardroom, as does the LDO. I chose to retire than to accept CWO3 due to being a single parent. My C.O. wanted me to go LDO and I would have skipped ENS and started as an LTJG. When I retired we were bringing the Chief Petty Officers into more and more roles previously held by officers. As a Chief Petty Officer I relieved a Navy LDO LT and a USMC Captain and merged the two divisions into one and assumed the duties of Radio Officer on a major command with a lot of staff requirements. If an ensign decided to strut up to me and tell me to obey him we would have a problem.
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I am and was always a writer. Because of that I often wrote the OERs for my COs (including my own). And because of that I, as a CW3 rated a lot of commissioned officers.
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It all depends on the MTOE / TDA. As I remember many slots require a WO and don’t state what pay grade. It’s the same argument when we had enlisted Specialists in higher pay grades, all NCOs put ranked them.
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I think that a CW5 should be rated by a Col , A CW4 by a LtCol and the rest by a Major. A 2LT does not have the experience nor the knowledge to rate a Warrant Officer. A Warrant Officer is specialized in his/her field and most Company Grade Officers are no where near that Standard.
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CPT Earl George
However, by virtue of his/her rank and assignment, a 2LT may be put in command of a WO. it may not happen often, but it is a possibility.
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You guys are pulling my leg. A 2LT rating a CW5/ even CW2.
A PFC rating a E6. ??? Unfortunately today E-5/ E-6 those ranks are giving by learn how to answer question. No backbone of leadership or mentorship. That’s a different topic.
A PFC rating a E6. ??? Unfortunately today E-5/ E-6 those ranks are giving by learn how to answer question. No backbone of leadership or mentorship. That’s a different topic.
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SSgt Elihu Lowery
From an Air Force prospective this is all a little confusing. The Warrants are upset because they are being rated by a superior commissioned officer but they don't feel that the officer is high enough in the military hierarchy to rate them? .An O1-O3 is still three or five grades above a W3. This would be akin to an AF E6 going to the Squadron Commander protesting that as the most Senior junior NCO he demands to be rated by no less than a Major because he believes only someone 5 grades higher can truly appreciate what he does.
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I have always respected the Warrant Officer rate. The worst dressing down was from a W-1 in the USMC. Ranks are ranks.
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I look at experience and time in service requirements, when it takes at minimum around what 6 years usually more to become CW5 depending on availability or necessity and a pimple face inexperienced kid gets a BS in dump truck driving school and has the right to rate a CW5. I think I've made it clear experience should be respected
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Been following the US Navy? Asking Congress to make Push Button (Instant) E-7 Chiefs, and 0-6 Navy Captains, to recruit CYBER experts into service
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If you’re discussing this about the Army Warrant Officers rank then I have just this to say. All Warrant and Commission Officers pay grade/rank are senior to all enlisted pay grade/rank. All Commission Officers pay grade/rank to include Limited Duty Officers (LDO), are Seniors to everyone else. It shouldn’t matter what branch of military service you are in by DOPMA regulations.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
James, Fitreps or respect were never an issue with us. For the short while I had a 200 man Company in Oki, I wrote fitreps on 3 CWO2s. I was CWO3 and they had no complaints. CWOs often got Companies if there wasn't a regular around, and stepped down when one showed up. We went by the 1 bar rule and it always worked. I never had a Lt ask me for a salute and always rendered one for the 2 Company COs that were 1stLt. Unless we were in the field or a Capt asked me not to salute around the work area, it was 2 bars so I saluted. I never had any issues.
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It’s fucked up if u ask me. In what world doesn’t experience not over do a degree. Think about that only in the military do they say if u go to math class and science class u are better than the people who put their time in.
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Two questions:
Do MTO&Es or equivent call for a spefic rank of Warrant Officer? In the 80s and 90s I recall that they did not. A Battalion Maint. Cheif could be a WO1-WO4/5 depending on who was in the pipeline. No matter the rank the worked for the BMO.
Question 2: Soulf we get rid of Warrants and use LImited Duty Officers? Started doing this in the Medical Corps with PAs.
Do MTO&Es or equivent call for a spefic rank of Warrant Officer? In the 80s and 90s I recall that they did not. A Battalion Maint. Cheif could be a WO1-WO4/5 depending on who was in the pipeline. No matter the rank the worked for the BMO.
Question 2: Soulf we get rid of Warrants and use LImited Duty Officers? Started doing this in the Medical Corps with PAs.
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Question: Is a CW3 consider a company or field grade officer? Or neither one?
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