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So yesterday we were sitting through probably the 5th brief I've had lately on the new OER system when a question occurred to me and another fellow warrant. It was brought up in the discussion that under the new regulation that all Majors must be senior rated by a COL (O6) or higher. That got us thinking that as CW3s (also field grades) what is the minimum senior rater requirement? We pulled up the new reg and was a little surprised to see that all warrants (WO1-CW5 only have a senior rater requirement of MAJ). I was also even more shocked to discover that according to the regulation, a 2LT could actually rate a CW5.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div>
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Cheer up buttercup, a field grade Warrant. LOL next you'll think you have a real commission.
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Troy, I had a deeply divided conversation with the Brigade last year over this exact topic. The Brigade S1 was in vehement disagreement that my raters, rater should be my senior rater. This was mainly due to the fact that the Brigade Commander would have been just that. I believe that the point of conflict was the as a member of the special staff in the ARSOF community we report directly to the BDE CDR and not the S3, where as the S1 reports to the XO/DCO. Because of this command relationship it meant the commander would be my rater’s rater and the CoS at 1st SFC would be my rater’s senior rater. The point being that the S1 is rated by the BDE XO/DCO and senior rated by the BDE CDR. For her it was perceived that she would not be in the same rating pool as my MAJ and presented an unfair advantage when it came promotion board time. The whole point of this is that it forced me into the regulation where it only addressed the senior rater min grade requirement. I would expect though with all the updates continuously being pushed there should be an addendum to the regulation in the pipeline as was the case with the ASU service cap and the other guidance’s coming out.
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Seems like another area which has been overlooked. neglected and now obsolete. A W5 making as much or more $$$ as an O5 being rating by an O1. Sounds like a broken system. Would things change if they incorporated our pay scale into the standard O1-O10 pay scale? Scary thought for them.
I'm happy to say (as a W2/3) I've never been rated by anything less than an O5, as it should be.
I'm happy to say (as a W2/3) I've never been rated by anything less than an O5, as it should be.
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Bryan, I never was too spun up about who was my rater and senior rater. I am a firm believer that my boss should be the rater and their boss my senior rater. I would gather that as a W5 your boss would most likely be a senior field grade officer and not a company grade. Sounds like the rating scheme is in need of another look.
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CWO3 Bryan Luciani
I agree Vince. Another consideration is that unlike my senior enlisted ratings/fitreps which were highly competitive within my own command, most all of my CWO ratings were "1 of 1" as the only CWO at the command. Doesn't much matter who the rater is at that point. Our lonely world.
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Since becoming a warrant officer, I was rated by a MAJ or LTC and senior rated by a LTC or COL as a WO1. My last OER in this unit will have me rated by a LTC and senior rated by a COL.
In my new unit (I report 8 June), the best I can hope for without going outside the unit is to be rated by a CPT and senior rated by a MAJ. Yeah, it's a bit of a step down, but I got lucky (so to speak).
In my new unit (I report 8 June), the best I can hope for without going outside the unit is to be rated by a CPT and senior rated by a MAJ. Yeah, it's a bit of a step down, but I got lucky (so to speak).
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Sorry CW3 but the last time I checked you had to salute the 2LT and so does the CW5. If he out ranks you be can rate rate you. If that bothers you you should have become real officer and not an over paid under used NCO.
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CWO2 Richard Rose
Major Robert Adams, I am thankful that I never served anywhere near you. Your ignorance has not bounds. I bet you really earn the respect of your "not real officers and overpaid under used NCO." If you entered the Army as and 0-1 you must have began with a huge chip on your shoulder. If you treated me in the manner you just displayed here while I was still on active duty I would have most certainly told you to take a long walk down a very short pier.
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