Posted on Feb 18, 2015
CPT Zachary Brooks
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State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf has stated that the Middle East needs more job opportunities to remove the threat of groups such as ISIS and that killing them will not beat them.

I both agree and disagree with this statement, where if better opportunities existed within the Middle East there would be less individuals fighting with the terrorists, but at the same time, we must remove ISIS to allow those jobs to even been created.

What do you all think?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/marie-harf-state-department-on-islamic-state-cant-/
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SSG Christopher Parrish
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Everyone just sit back and relax, apparently we just aren't smart enough to understand Ms. Harf's point.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/18/state-department-spokeswoman-call-for-using-jobs-to-combat-terror-too-nuanced/
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I wouldn't say it was too nuanced, I'd say that polemicists are simply exercising some willful ignorance in an attempt to score political points.
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Sgt Zachary Johnson
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Probably the most asinine thing I've heard today!!
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SPC Charles Brown
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What the @#%& is our leadership thinking? This would solve absolutely nothing. Wiping them off of the face of the earth is the only thing that will end the problem. The only problem with this is that the more we kill the more we make. If they truly want to meet Allah, then use our military to facilitate the meeting, kill them all and let Allah sort them out! Just my opinion.
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They can all work at the walmart mcdonalds supercenter being built over the rubble that used to be their homes
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2LT Scott Armstrong
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Ballistics Gel Testing Dummy.
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LTC (Join to see) - Sir, I think we SHOULD give them jobs. After all, given the poor economy and that, some of these folks could be very productive in the private sector. ESPECIALLY since some of them have advanced degrees.

I have compiled a list of potential career fields for them:

Body Armor quality tester
OJT EOD Operator
Pharmaceutical Trial Participant
Asbestos/HAZMAT operator
Ground-Ejection Test Pilot
Deep Sea Rescue Diver
High Tension Power-Line Repairman

I think given the skillsets, they would be perfectly equipped to fulfill any of these roles.
v/r,
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MSG Dan Foster
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LTC John Tongret, The last I saw Alice she was running from the Queen of Hearts.
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SSG Jason Neumann
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We can't change their Islamic ideology, beliefs or views. This has been going on for thousands of years. If they think that beheading individuals or "ethic cleansing" is their way of "negotiating" or way of business, so be it (are we going after other countries that are doing this????). However, I would think that if they mark any of our Servicemembers or U.S. citizen, hell shall be paid ten-fold. Islamic state, ISIL, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban or whomever else, they are all terrorist. It's just that, plain and simple, but out of all of them, they want to be the "Top dog" and make sure it is noticed, mission accomplished.

Just as stated in the article. There are always going to be poor people. No matter how we try to dice it up. These fanatics are recruiting all over, rich/poor, educated/uneducated, married/single etc.... Killing them all is not the answer, but who do we go to? Financiers, Propaganda personnel, boot on the ground troops? The fact is, if we go after one, there is going to be three to take their place and they will come with a vengeance.

I do propose, we come to a compromise. Well, we could send our best of the best out into the middle of a street, along with "their" best, yup, you probably are catching on......a duel. There is sarcasm there, but still would that be better than losing more American Soldiers? Now, once that is settle, if any more crap from them comes their mouths..... JDAM JDAM JDAM.

What are your thoughts?
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Religions evolve over time, both Christianity and Islam have for the most part evolved tremendously since the Middle Ages... at the same time the goal of fundamentalists is to roll that progress back. What makes Islamic fundamentalists such a problem is that their religion was born during a time of war and conquest. Now there are varying degrees of fundamentalism and extremism in Islam and IS is perhaps the most extreme to date, unfortunately the struggle between Progressive interpretations and Fundamentalist interpretations of Islam is one that must be won by the Progressive side. Note that IS considers the vast majority of the 1.5 Billion Muslims on this planet to be heretics and apostates from the true Islam. Christians and Jews in the areas they conquer are forced to pay special taxes, apostates are killed. So IMO, the odds are heavily in our favor... we just need to avoid making this a struggle between Islam and the West as opposed to fundamentalist interpretations of Islam and more progressive versions of Islam.

Our strategy must include killing them, however there are also going to be times when helping people upgrade an irrigation system or build a school does more to further our cause than JDAM, JDAM, JDAM.
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PO2 Mark Saffell
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I honestly have to say I'm worried about a President that would surround himself with such stupid people. I'm not sure which statements out of this White House are the worst. I am thinking it's between give ISIL jobs to end terrosim or it was caused by a video. I guess I have to add now that the law is on our side when it comes to making illegals legal. Really???
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MSG Brad Sand
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There are so many problems with the Ms. Harf's comments and mindset it is hard to know where to start. First and foremost, ISIS fighters are not flooding in from the lower class people of the region but upper and middle class communities of Europe and Central Asia? I like to boil this down a bit...ISIS fighters are like rabid dogs. There is actually only one thing that can help these animals once they are infected and that is for them to be put down.
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