Posted on Jan 25, 2015
Wearing a ring on the left hand; allowed by AR 670-1 but not by an NCO. How would you handle it?
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I wear a ring on the pointer finger of my left hand. It's sterling silver and isn't even as big as a class ring. However, a SSG from my unit is constantly telling me to take it off because it is not a wedding ring. I tell him AR 670-1 states in section Jewlery that a soldier my wear a total of 2 rings; 1 on each hand, and a wedding band set is considered 1. It also states that rings must be conservative in taste and not extreme. Nowhere in the Regs does it say a soldier can only wear wedding rings. My ring meets all requirements but he still yells everytime he sees it. How can I educate him more or resolve the situation without taking off my ring and without getting chewed out?
Posted 11 y ago
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Pick you battles bro...even if you are 'proven correct', all you have managed to do is put yourself in this NCO's sights. Believe me, eventually, he will find something legit that you are slippin' on and you will find yourself on the carpet.
Pick you battles bro...even if you are 'proven correct', all you have managed to do is put yourself in this NCO's sights. Believe me, eventually, he will find something legit that you are slippin' on and you will find yourself on the carpet.
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We as NCO's we are there for the soldiers period. When i was a lower enlisted anytime i had an NCO approach me and tells me what i do i would do it. If I had a question or wondered why i was being corrected i asked that NCO respectuflly to explain to me. Likewise we learn good or bad from each other regarless of the situation. (I feel like we create friction for no reason where we could solve it right away through effecitve communication)
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If he outranks you just listen. It is a lawful order. Do you question every little thing asked of you if it's just a little thing like a mustache or ring? Just listen and leave it. And you should never try to "educate" a superior. You will lose over something this minor.
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If he outranks you just listen. It is a lawful order. Do you question every little thing asked of you if it's just a little thing like a mustache or ring? Just listen and leave it.
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Talk to your COC about it, it's harrassment and tge NCO is nit following regs.
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All orders are considered valid and must be complied with until the member can prove the order is invalid. An exception would an order that is illegal. You can
not be ordered commit a crime or commit murder or cause unwarranted harm to members or civilians. Let us face it if it is a matter of a ring or a hair cut, follow the order and then complain through channels.
not be ordered commit a crime or commit murder or cause unwarranted harm to members or civilians. Let us face it if it is a matter of a ring or a hair cut, follow the order and then complain through channels.
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I had really wanted a diamond, as in First Sergeant recognition, but my soon-to-be wife guided me to a local jewelry store in Fayetteville for my wedding ring having three diamonds. Once, during a night jump while in the 82nd, the jumpmaster yelled out, "All right . . ., who's got the diamond ring on?"
As it turned out, my ring was emitting sparklies all across the ceiling of the C-130 so I quickly turned the ring around to hide the outburst of night visibility. Lessons learned.
As it turned out, my ring was emitting sparklies all across the ceiling of the C-130 so I quickly turned the ring around to hide the outburst of night visibility. Lessons learned.
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Ever see a finger de-gloved by a ring. I have. Neither I, nor my wife wear rings. I don't allow anyone to keep them on if they want to touch my horses and goats, even over the fence. I wouldn't wear one around anything that has energized moving parts, or weighs more than 15lbs and could catch the ring. They are safety hazards. I'll spare you the image if you don't want to see it, but if you need to, do a google image search.
I'd find the SSG and thank him if I was you.
I'd find the SSG and thank him if I was you.
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Pal, pick your battles. Understand that you may be entirely correct, and I am not going to deny the fact that you may be entirely correct, but is it something that is really worth possibly tarnishing the working relationship that you must have with that NCO? I really don't think so. Take it from a guy that has conducted my share of little battles against leadership, both at the lowest level and throughout the higher echelons, and it really is not worth it, bud. Save that fight ticket for something that really matters. If it is just a random piece of jewelry that you just wear because you want to and has no real significance passed that, what are you really missing out on by not wearing it during duty hours in uniform? You can try throwing regulations in the face of this leader, maybe you win and maybe you lose; maybe he drops the "add to but not take away" line that can be pulled out whenever it suits someone, you never know. I'm just thinking that your leader may have a reason for this that hasn't been expressed. Regardless of the why, just think about the importance of this fight and the possible repercussions of jumping into a regulation battle with someone who, presumably, has far more knowledge and experience than you possess. Just think about it.
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