Posted on Jan 25, 2015
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I wear a ring on the pointer finger of my left hand. It's sterling silver and isn't even as big as a class ring. However, a SSG from my unit is constantly telling me to take it off because it is not a wedding ring. I tell him AR 670-1 states in section Jewlery that a soldier my wear a total of 2 rings; 1 on each hand, and a wedding band set is considered 1. It also states that rings must be conservative in taste and not extreme. Nowhere in the Regs does it say a soldier can only wear wedding rings. My ring meets all requirements but he still yells everytime he sees it. How can I educate him more or resolve the situation without taking off my ring and without getting chewed out?
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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I don't know where Your SSgt gets His ideas, You can certainly wear the rings and not everyone is married. One ring per hand is reasonable and allowed. , I wore a wedding ring on My left hand and a college Class ring on the right. The only exception for safety reasons is working around machinery where the ring could be snagged and perhaps end up with an injury to Your person but that only applies while actually working at the time with the machines. Colonel Smallfield had some suggestions that a very valid, read His posting that He made here.
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James Adair
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seem like your CO is lacking in knowledge of army regs but, just keep in compliance pending your MOS or whatever the army calls specialty's
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SSG Platoon Sergeant
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I'm sure if it were a Masonic or West Point ring this would be a non issue
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SSG Platoon Sergeant
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I'm sure if it was a Masonic or West Point ring this would be a non issue
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670-1 can be more restrictive. Not less. The reg allows you to wear a ring on each hand. That DOES NOT mean that the leadership is required to allow it. This is a large problem for young troops. They are under the mistaken impression that the reg dictates what their rights are and they can do whatever they want as long as it fits within the regs. That is NOT the case. Leadership can give a lawful order and require all to wear only one ring or even no rings. NOW, if leadership is only limiting YOU to one ring then you have an issue of discrimination. An example of this is basic training. The reg gives the standard for haircuts, however we all know that anything but a buzz is unacceptable regardless of what the reg says. Remember, it can be more restrictive not less. Commanders/Leaderships discretion. If I had a platoon wide standard of no rings (because they are dangerous A.F.) and you came at me with the reg about ring wear, I would commend you on your knowledge and then make you remove your ring after some remedial PT for failing to follow a lawful order.
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While you are technically correct, MSG(P) (Join to see) , because SSG(P) (Join to see) is an engineer, if one works in an office, the issue becomes one of personal whim rather than real concern, and that's not what leadership is about.
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If I have some soldiers in the same platoon working in the field and some in the HQ then in fairness I would restrict ring wear across the board. If some cannot do it then by uniformity, no one can. The reg doesn't specify that I must have a reason for doing so. It's a leadership prerogative. Do I believe that leadership should make people miserable just to be miserable? No of course not. I'm simply pointing out that just because the reg allows a behavior that does not mean soldiers are guaranteed that behavior.
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TSgt Denise Moody
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If the ring doesn't constitute a safety issue, and you'll have to check with your SOP or consider whether you work around anything that a ring can catch on and rip your finger off, then show the SSG the appropriate reg. Don't just tell him, because you have said you've already mentioned the reg...show it to him. I had a similar problem oh so many years ago with the length of my finger nails. AFR 35-10 didn't mention length of nails, only color of polish :) So the TSG had to back down when I sent him to the regs.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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Is it really that important to wear it on duty? Wear it on your time and don't give him a reason to light you up whether it's regs or not, doesn't make sense to me, and I'd pick my fights better.
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SPC John Decker
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Report him up the chain of command.
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SGT Alicia Brenneis
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I am not usually an advocate for "why" questions but in this case try asking him why he doesn't want you to wear it when regs say you can. Obviously approach the conversation with calm respect. He may have valid reasons like safety. Pick your battles. If you feel the need to stand firm then do so but remember there could be consequences or blow back later.
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CW3 Craig Linghor
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You should wear it on your thumb instead...lol. Happy I don't have to deal with stupidity anymore. Funny though.
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