Posted on Feb 22, 2016
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I am applying for a position in Fort Shafter as a Tour of Duty, and it's open to Guardsmen. What are my chances of getting that position? It requires any engineer MOS (primarily 12B) and e4-e6 rank. Is there any reason I shouldn't apply? Any advice?
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The one way to guarantee not being selected is to not apply.
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SPC Combat Engineer
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Excellent point, sir. I'm definitely applying unless there's a dire reason not to.
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SFC Daniel Faires
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Nope , do it !! why ask this question ? Do you want to do it ? Then apply!!! Do you want the experience and the knowledge that comes from it ? Then apply !! Are you scared about not getting it ? Too bad ! life isn't fair !!! Still apply !!
If you put your best foot forward and put together the absolute best packet you can, ask for guidance from your NCO !!! Still apply !! If you can't get the guidance from your NCO get another one to help !!

Your career is your career not anyone else's , I have seen so many Soldiers wonder this same question and I always told them apply !! The worst that can happen is they say no !

Now you just keep applying for other positions !!! Don't play the victim card and quit after the first denied application. Keep trying never quit !
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SPC Combat Engineer
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Thank you, SFC. Very sound advice. The only reason I wouldn't apply is "We won't let you" or "You can't, we're deploying." Both of those chances are extraordinarily low.
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SFC Daniel Faires
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If they say we won't let you go to your 1SG then to your CSM

A no is just another question, I have never accepted "no we won't let you"
Give me a quantifiable reason why and I will accept it if it is quantifiable.

And if they said we are deploying until you have orders you aren't deploying !
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It's ultimately up to the brigade level command to make that decision. The brigade command is the level that needs to provide the Commander's Memo ultimately needed to release you from the unit. Be sure to utilize open door policies if you get stuck.
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This is something that you should inform your chain of command about. It is a courtesy that you should afford them. I used Tour of Duty to find my current position. I am on Title 10 ADOS. The Guard did pay to PCS me to my new duty station. However though I still drill with my home state. The policy varies from state to state. In addition to this your promotion still based of your home state. So if you want to stay in good standing you might want to still participate in your units drills. Tour of Duty is a great resource but it is extremely competitive. You can see how many people apply for a position. I went into a unique position where I didn't have much competition. I am not saying that you won't get the position but you might have to apply for a few positions until you get picked up. I have known some that it never worked out for but that shouldn't be a reason to stop applying.
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Thank you, sir. And I am actually going to do the paperwork side by side with my readiness NCO, not on my own. This duty station is in Hawaii. Would I still be *required* to drill with my unit in PA? That seems fairly unreasonable.
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SFC Daniel Faires
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now that's a good question?? Hawaii duty well you are going to have a hard time getting to drill. there are memorandums that allow you to perform duty with the unit in Hawaii

just try see what happens. your Commander , 1SG and Readiness NCO has to sign off on the packet.

don't get d8iscourged just do it!!
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SPC (Join to see) - It is dependant on your state. Each state has policies. I have seen some that make them drill still and some that don't. In your case your state would have to realize that there is no way you could still drill. A lot of times soldiers will go on orders and then IST to their new state. That could be an option. But a lot of times they don't like to do that. It is really a case by case basis.
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