Posted on Dec 29, 2013
SSG Waldo Yamada
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Hello all,

I am a medically retired SSG and am currently going to college. I was medically retired for psychosis (schizophrenia) and am now just finished my re-eval and the prognosis is that I am stabilizing. So my VA disability is being reduced to a 70%. When I retired I wasn't told about COAD and if I was given the option, I would've signed up and continued my service. But that was not the case. A year later, now to be exact, I am stabilizing and have not gotten any relapse since me taking my meds so I am going to my VA appointment and request the start of my recuperation in order to continue back in service. I have seen the recruiters and the chance for going in is that I have to be Airborne qualified or go the 18X route. I did some research and talked with the ROTC POC to see if I'm able to go in the service to be commissioned and I was told that I will need to get a waiver for my disability.

My question is. What are the chances of me re-enlisting as a Commissioned Officer through ROTC with a psychosis that has been treated and stabilized due to medication treatment?
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LTC John Czarnecki
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<p>Not trying to be harsh, but If you've got a Reenlistment Code of RE-4 on your 214, then you're out for a reason, and I don't want to see you back in the service, in ANY capacity.&nbsp; So you believe that with a 70% VA rating for psychosis you'll be GTG as an Officer?&nbsp; Really?&nbsp;&nbsp; Having been a SOF soldier for the majority of my career, I'll be the first to break the bad news to ya... there's no way you'll ever get an 18X contract, and if you somehow manage to get back into the service, I'll be happy I'm now retired, as the manpower management folks are doing the service a disservice.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Or are you just looking for a free ride through college on an ROTC scholarship that's being held up by that pesky detail of the RE-4?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The military isn't a social experiment, it exists to defened our country.&nbsp; Achieving that goal requires SMs in good health.&nbsp; While I'm glad your'e feeling better, I'm also happy that you're no longer in the Service.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If that isn't PC enough or if Im being insensitive, oops.</p>
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LTC John Czarnecki
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WTF??? You are one low-life POS who I'm quite happy has an RE4 and will never serve in my beloved Army. Your statement that "it is more of a last resort for me if I can't make the civilian life" is as insulting as any I've ever heard.

Take a hike, loser.
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SSG Waldo Yamada
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LTC your candid remarks is duly noted and it doesn't phase me. I understand that you have an A type personality but no one has experienced what I've been through and I haven't been in your shoes as well. I understand that you've served in more stressful situations than I have; which is tantamount experience, and I respect you for that. What I don't respect you for is to blatantly denounce me like I am some inferior who didn't deserve the military. I deserved every one bit of my time in the Army. From start to finish. When I say last resort I meant that as a last option. I have a lot of options and I'm taking advantage of it to see that I can sustain my well being. In the end, I don't think I'll ever go back because I don't see myself operating in stressful situations anymore. In respect, and I don't want to cause any negative discourse on this website I still want to keep my professionality as a prior soldier and a current citizen, and I will "carry on" because I don't think my personality fits in the military.
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SSG Lloyd Becker BSBA-HCM, MBA
SSG Lloyd Becker BSBA-HCM, MBA
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I have an RE4 also, but I am retired.  I also look at a few comments and although the LTC is a bit harsh, I tend to think about what he is trying to convey and I find no message in his statement because he does not relay the why.
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PO1 John Miller
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LTC John Czarnecki , this Soldier has already stated the reasons he received an RE4 code, and it seems legit to me. It also appears that he is doing what he needs to do in order to get his condition under control. He now wants to give back to the Army which gave so much to him. How does that make him a "low-life POS?"

Please note I am not trying to be disrespectful (though I did vote your comment down). I am just wondering what your logic for having come to this conclusion is.
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I am a current recruiter and from my experience RE4 code is non wavierable, if the medical issue no longer remains then you can apply to have the code changed but ive heard that its pretty tough to do
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SSG Waldo Yamada
SSG Waldo Yamada
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Thanks SFC John M.,

I will do a research and post an update on the outcome so that it can benefit to those willing to rejoin.
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SGT Rmf Technical Lead
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SFC John,


What if the TDS Chapter Legal Counsel (MFR) states that an individual could re-enlist after 2 years, contrary to the regulation?

What if it was part of a conditional waiver of rights to not contend the chapter?

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SSG Stay At Home Dad
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SSG Yamada I included a link so you can read about the RE CODES.

However I want to make a recommendation, no matter what any Army recruiter tells you don't and I mean don't go Airborne as a way to get in with the condition you currently have. Schizophrenia is not a condition that goes always over night, it requires having to take some powerful medication that may make you feel ok, but with out it your back to level 1 again. I will assure you of one thing, either your going to get a dishonorable discharge or your going to get someone killed or your going to get yourself killed. I know that dreams are high and finishing what you stared is perhaps a desire, but for your sake, don't do it.

Some times the best thing to do is get your education in a career out side of the military because the military is an organization that is designed to fight a war and win, it is not am 8 hour a day 5 days a week job where you get off at 5 pm and go home. With your condition reconsider your plan, I personally like to say Thank you for your service and thank you for being open and honest in this thread.




http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/l/blcode3.htm


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