Posted on May 24, 2020
What are the penalties for a civilian living with a soldier in the barracks?
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Are you the Civilian in question? If yes, you are not legally allowed to live within the Military Barracks. The barracks are rated for safety reasons to a specific capacity, usually not to exceed a 2 per suite. Only individuals stationed and assigned to the specific unit are allowed to reside within the barracks. However, per unit policy, there may be a visitor policy which establishes visitor rules and what can and cant be done. There are usually visitation hours for the Barracks and a violation of the unit policy may and can result in the soldier being Punished under UCMJ.
It is in your best interest to avoid any UCMJ to marry individual and receive on post housing
It is in your best interest to avoid any UCMJ to marry individual and receive on post housing
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Trespassing charges. Barred from base. That will depend on a lot of factors. That's just for the civilian. The Soldier could face a slew of penalties/charges.
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First off, don’t do it. It’s against regulations.
Now that we covered that the penalties can vary. It can be as small as a shouting match and formal counseling for the active duty member up to NJP and a formal trespass and blacklist for onbase access to the civilian .
Now that we covered that the penalties can vary. It can be as small as a shouting match and formal counseling for the active duty member up to NJP and a formal trespass and blacklist for onbase access to the civilian .
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For the civilian, just being kicked off base.
For the Soldier, it's up to thr chain of command. Anything from nothing to court martial.
For the Soldier, it's up to thr chain of command. Anything from nothing to court martial.
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LTC Jason Mackay
Garrison Commander has the option to bar the civilian from the installation for a time period or permanently. So if they were to marry, the civilian would still be barred.
Another option is to charge them in federal court with trespassing, creating a federal record for that person.
Another option is to charge them in federal court with trespassing, creating a federal record for that person.
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I left out trespassing because it requires the subject to know they are not allowed to be there.
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As previously mentioned, the visitor can, and likely will be banned from post. A soldier in my platoon at FTCKY had his girlfriend living with him in the barracks. He rigged his wall locker so that it looked like it was locked all the time, but only truly locked from the inside. During work hours, if she heard noises in the hallway, she'd lock herself in the wall locker. HE went from SPC(P) to PV2, and she wound up dumping him because "she don't date no Privates."
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Join the Air Farce. Visiting hours were 24/7. Just make sure you share with your roomie so they do not bitch. Oh and make sure your guest is of legal age!!
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I thru the airman out of the service and the young lady was hauled off to jail for bad checks. The scum was shacking with the fiancé of one of my best while he was deployed across the pond. The commotion I caused at o dark thirty when I kicked the door in with the security police let everyone know that conduct was not acceptable.
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There's no way I see this as a good idea. Barracks are intended for Service Member's residence. Policy and local directives usually prohibit anybody who is not a Service Member from staying overnight in a barracks room; more specifically, the Service Member assigned to the room. I'm sure the Service Member could face disciplinary action for having a person living in their room.
My recommendation is for the civilian to get out now. If the Service Member and said civilian want to live together, then the need to talk with a chaplain or JAG or both.
My recommendation is for the civilian to get out now. If the Service Member and said civilian want to live together, then the need to talk with a chaplain or JAG or both.
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THe civilian could be charged and barred permanently from the post. The service member charged with violating regulations and possibly demoted.
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The Sergeant should have read Barracks policies before making this decision. Second I think I am smelling some revenge type shit from one of or a few of the Soldiers this Sergeant leads. Either way, This Sergeant should have known better then to bring a civilian into the barracks with the intent of co habitation. This also supports my theory that NCO's should not be living in the same barracks as the lower enlisted. Not because of situations like this, but because both the lower enlisted and the NCO's need some separation time.
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