Posted on Jul 6, 2017
Sgt Vernon Fulmer
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I would like to advance my military career in special operations, but the gap is closing because of my TIS in the Marine Corps. I do love my Marine Corps, however, it might be time for me to take my desires and experience elsewhere. I'm using this time to finish my degree, and explore my options. I was hoping there was someone who could give me some insight.
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I think the biggest advantage the Army has is that it’s a much larger organization. Hence more opportunities for promotion and exploring different career paths. On the downside the Marine Corps seems to have a higher esprit de corps than the Army.
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PO1 Deb Hawkins
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Most switch to Coast Guard, better lifestyle, cool counter drug missions
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SP5 Christopher Brock
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Pros more bases
Cons lack of integrity, a lot of women sleeping to the top, more attitude, a lot of NCO’s put their careers and wants ahead of their soldiers, 21 year old E-6’s, seen more drug cases, seen people who do drugs get promoted faster then a non drug users, and I actually met a 27 year old Master Sergeant, seen Females cuss out male Sildiers then when the Male says something back they file an EO Complaint, and the One that made me Get out a Male Soldier tried to rape a female Soldier while, high on Meth and had Cocaine in his system get off, finish out his time and got all benefits, I will always remember her face when she seen he had no consequences
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LTC John Wilson
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I am a former Marine, after being out of the corps for one year, I decided to go back in and once again serve. However, the Marines had second thoughts about that. They wanted me to give up my stripes and go back to Vietnam as a Lance Corporal. My experience was tossed out the window like a bucket of water.
I decided not to rejoin the Marines and on my way ot of the Recruiting Building was approached by the Army recruiter. Who promptly told me that there were other options. One, reenlist at my previous rank. Two, Take a test to see if I could get into Officer Candidate School. If so, I could be in OCS within five days of signing up. He also told me if I flunked out, I was going Infantry and back to Vietnam.
I joined, Passed the test, Graduated OCS, and got to select the schools of my choice, Airborne, Special Forces, Language training. When I graduated I was sent to Vietnam as a 2nd Lieutenant, in the Army Special Forces. I was initially assigned as a Operations officer in the B Team. Upon the death of another officer, I was assigned as the Commander of an A-Team.
I got to experience some of the toughest combat first hand, and become a qualified SF Officer. I transferred out to Reserves in 1971, when there was a Riffed in Force. That way I kept my rank and went back to get my College Degree. I earned three degrees and retired as a Lieutenant colonel in the USAR. Pension according to points earned during service.
By far the Army gave me the opportunity to be all I could be and used my talents to their best interests. IO strongly recommend Marines to check out the Army OCS programs and better themselves. OOOrah!
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1SG Daniel Bellina
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Both are good. Have trained both was a Drill Sgt, a Blackhat and weapons instructor. Go for Special opns and you too can work with them both. OK Navy Seals too but loved working with Force Recon
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CW3 Peter Acevedo
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I’m Pete I retired in 1996. While on active duty I had the honor of flying with a few former Marines and Navy Seals. They both told me the loved the Corp and Teams but the Army was to only way they could get to fly. I also have three former Marines in my family a Son a son-in-law and nephew I tell them they need two more Marines for a fair fight LOL. My youngest son is Air Force. My Dad was Navy and after he pasted my stepfather was Air Force so we have a large military Family. I was liaison to the Marine Corps for five years I worked for SOTG. I’m familiar with the MARINE CORP‘s traditions. The Army is different but we all bleed green on the inside. Most of them went on to fly for the 160th. It’s something to think about. Stay safe my Friend.
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CPT Mike Sims
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Marine... allow me to make the recommendation of making the transition to become a Commissioned Officer in the Army and you can also serve as a Counterintelligence (CI) Special Agent (National Security Crimes Investigator), or as a Criminal Investigations Division (CID) Special Agent... CID just opened its doors to Commissioned Officers. Counterintelligence used to be the only place in the Army with Commissiined Officer / Special Agents, but now since CID has opened its doors, there are plenty of opportunities for you to be a Military Special Agent. I would recommend the Counterintelligence (CI) route because of the type of operations you will be conducting... Clandestine Operations / or National Security Crimes Investigations against Terrorism, Sabotage, Assassination Attempts, Acts of Subervision, Acts of Sedition, Espionage, Treason, Cyber Crimes against DoD, and any threats connected to a foreign nexus (domestically and overseas) who pose a threat to U.S. National Security, U.S. Citizens, DoD assets, U.S. Army areas of interest. In addition - as a CI Special Agent, you may also conduct or provide support to Human Intelligence (HUMINT) operations, you will recruit spies to work for us, you will Investigate or interview Leads, Sources, Witnesses, Subjects, you will take cases to court in coordination with the FBI and other agencies, you will work closely with other branches of the military investigative agencies (NCIS, CGIS, CGCIS, AFOSI, and along with our CID), and you will interface and coordinate quite a bit with the CIA, DIA, FBI, DHS, Secret Service, CBP, Border Patrol, ICE, HSI, and the State Department - and sometimes with state and local officials. You will attend advanced training at the Joint Counterintelligence Training Academy (JCITA) at Quantico Marine Corps Base, and you have the chance to attend specialized training at the FBI Academy (also at Quantico), or the "Farm" - for the CIA. After your advanced training, you are then qualified to serve with and provide CI support to JSOC - which will then enable you to plan and participate in Covert Missions (different than Clandestine Operations).

If you decide to leave the Army later, you can stay with the Army as a Civilian Special Agent either in Counterintelligence with (MICECP - pronounced as "my-sep") = Military Intelligence Civilian Excepted Career Program, or you can work in CID, or you can leave the Army and join the DIA as a CI Special Agent, or work for the CIA, or a multitude of other agencies. The level of training and experience and various types of missions you will be involved in or agencies you will work with are limitless and exciting.

If not the Army, then take a look at the U.S. Coast Guard as a Commissioned Officer while also serving as a Counterintelligence Special Agent in the Coast Guard Counterintelligence Service (CGCIS) or as a CID Special Agent in the Coast Guard Criminal Investigation Service (CGIS). The Coast Guard is the nation's premier Maritime Law Enforcement Agency - it has primacy of all crimes committed at sea (not the Navy and not the FBI), and it belongs to the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Defense as a branch of the U.S. Armed Forces (therefore, you will be allowed to attend specialized and advanced training at DHS and DoD schools). Same as the Army... get tired of serving on active duty as an agent, then retire, or transfer to the reserves - and then continue working for CGCIS or CGIS as a full time Civilian Special Agent while still serving as a reserve Commissiomed Officer / Special Agent (you usually end up working in the same office one weekend a month as you do during the week).... then you can have two retirements... a Military Retirement from.active duty or the Reserves as a Commissioned Officer, and a Civilian Retirement as a Special Agent, and you will also have TSP's (Military and Civilian) from which you can use as a supplement to your retirement. If you transfer to the Reserves, you can also begin to receive any VA benefits and compensation for any injuries or exposures you sustained as a result of service or combat - which will allow you to recieve VA medical care in addition to Civilian Federal Healthcare benefits (much better than Tricare).

Good luck Marine!
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PO3 Alan Killebrew
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needing a lobotomy so you dont surpass the maximum IQ?
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GySgt Jack Wallace
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I was going to do the samething, as I would have worked with my Dad. He was the 1Sgt of the unit. Would have be easy but could not let myself take a step-down to join the Army Res.Sorry, In boot camp our Di would always say GOD, Country and the Corps** Even to this day people always thank me for my service and being a Marine. Hope this was helpful but you know what that say, Once aMarine always a Marine. Good luck Marine. And my God be with you and keep you safe no matter what branch your in. Semper Fi Gy Sgt. J. Wallace
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PO1 William Bargar
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OK, I have 1st hand knowledge & experience on this. I personally switched from the Marine Corps to the Navy. If I knew that I was going to LOSE two pay grades (E-5 to E-3) and also NOT make E-7 before I retired - "I would've definitely think twice"! I even went from AVIATION MARINE CORPS to AVIATION NAVY & still lost two pay grades. Tough to adjust to the Navy as well..... It took me a good two years to adjust to the Navy - the lack of discipline & military bearing. Tough decision - Think it over hard. One thing I did hear about the Army it's easy to rank up. That's a positive. Good Luck with your decision.
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