Posted on Dec 19, 2015
What are the reasons that Service Members with PTSD, TBI, or Severely Disabled will not try new services to get help?
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What are the reasons that Service Members with PTSD, TBI, or Severely Disabled will not try new services to get help?
I have a number of questions within this post that I would like to get everyone's input on from a professional standpoint. I also have some very important information for veterans and service members that need help and want to keep it anonymous!
As you know I lost a Father-in-Law (Vietnam Veteran diagnoised with PTSD) to Suicide on Tuesday, 8 December 2015 and he was buried on 16 December 2015 in Killeen, TX with full military honors! It is importand to me and the RallyPoint Members that are working with me and Virtual World Solutions to help stop this waive of suicides due to PTSD, TBI, and many other factors affecting our service members (including MST).
Please check the survey box - need the input please!
RP Memebers there are so many new services out there today for individuals that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, and that are Severely Disabled - how do we get them to feel comfortable about any one service or methodology?
Here is a nice evening program every Sunday called: "Warrior for Life" (WFL) Group Suport. This is now a part of Victory for Veterans Foundation. We stay connected (7) days a week on SKYPE with our group members. We welcome Veterans, Active Duty Service Members, Military Family Members, and Civilians that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, MST, and other disabilities to join us on Sunday evenings.
Please connect with me first on SKYPE at: mikel.burroughs
Have a short BIO about yourself ready to go and then I'll add you to the group with a Welcoming Message. You can get to know others via text first and then join us on Sunday evenings. If you want to join the Video Conference just to observe, you can turn off video and audio and just observe until you feel comfortable with the group. All of our members are members of RallyPoint and we've been meeting now going on two (2) years now.
We have members from all over the world and United States, so come join us for this one hour of group support each week.
Here is how you can join this Sunday to just listen in if you want to or any Sunday in the future:
Warrior for Life Group Support Sunday night at 8:00 PM EST (7:00 PM CST) 6:00 PM MST & 5:00 PM PST!
COL (R) Mikel Burroughs is inviting you to a RingCentral meeting.
Join from PC, Mac, iOS or Android: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/j/ [login to see]
Or iPhone one-tap:
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Or Telephone:
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International numbers available: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/teleconference
SGT Michael Thorin has provided some directions for loading Ring Central.
https://youtu.be/M8D_8iSNQ7k
I have a number of questions within this post that I would like to get everyone's input on from a professional standpoint. I also have some very important information for veterans and service members that need help and want to keep it anonymous!
As you know I lost a Father-in-Law (Vietnam Veteran diagnoised with PTSD) to Suicide on Tuesday, 8 December 2015 and he was buried on 16 December 2015 in Killeen, TX with full military honors! It is importand to me and the RallyPoint Members that are working with me and Virtual World Solutions to help stop this waive of suicides due to PTSD, TBI, and many other factors affecting our service members (including MST).
Please check the survey box - need the input please!
RP Memebers there are so many new services out there today for individuals that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, and that are Severely Disabled - how do we get them to feel comfortable about any one service or methodology?
Here is a nice evening program every Sunday called: "Warrior for Life" (WFL) Group Suport. This is now a part of Victory for Veterans Foundation. We stay connected (7) days a week on SKYPE with our group members. We welcome Veterans, Active Duty Service Members, Military Family Members, and Civilians that are suffering from PTSD, TBI, MST, and other disabilities to join us on Sunday evenings.
Please connect with me first on SKYPE at: mikel.burroughs
Have a short BIO about yourself ready to go and then I'll add you to the group with a Welcoming Message. You can get to know others via text first and then join us on Sunday evenings. If you want to join the Video Conference just to observe, you can turn off video and audio and just observe until you feel comfortable with the group. All of our members are members of RallyPoint and we've been meeting now going on two (2) years now.
We have members from all over the world and United States, so come join us for this one hour of group support each week.
Here is how you can join this Sunday to just listen in if you want to or any Sunday in the future:
Warrior for Life Group Support Sunday night at 8:00 PM EST (7:00 PM CST) 6:00 PM MST & 5:00 PM PST!
COL (R) Mikel Burroughs is inviting you to a RingCentral meeting.
Join from PC, Mac, iOS or Android: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/j/ [login to see]
Or iPhone one-tap:
+ [login to see] ,, [login to see] #
Or Telephone:
Dial: + [login to see]
Meeting ID: [login to see]
International numbers available: https://meetings.ringcentral.com/teleconference
SGT Michael Thorin has provided some directions for loading Ring Central.
https://youtu.be/M8D_8iSNQ7k
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs Every day we are faced with new instances coming to light of how the VA System and Government has failed to live up to its end of the deal with Veteran care. One cannot blame a vet in need of help for being skeptical of a new and improved treatment when past promises have been like toilet paper to politicians. New and improved hoops to jump through with no real hope of a better result would make anyone hesitant to try something new.
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There are a lot of trust issues with people suffering from these issues and now the organizations are not making it any easier. Wait times, lack of communication between the systems, fear of losing your rights, etc. Whether these fears are justified or not these are real to the potential patients.
There is the problem of the type of discharge received also. Most of us have personal experience with someone who was discharged with some form of OTH and it is probably directly related to their illness. How do we help these veterans get the assistance that they need and justifiably deserve? There are so many things surrounding this and I would love to be able to sit at a round table with people who could execute the strategies.
There is the problem of the type of discharge received also. Most of us have personal experience with someone who was discharged with some form of OTH and it is probably directly related to their illness. How do we help these veterans get the assistance that they need and justifiably deserve? There are so many things surrounding this and I would love to be able to sit at a round table with people who could execute the strategies.
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I believe I can give you insight on three different levels.
First, (someone I know) The fear that PTSD Label will effect his career, future career advancements, or future careers.
Secondly, (in my case) I've been seeing V.A. Psychiatrist for years now. Some who honestly have tried to help. One who saw me for about about 18 months and forgot why or what caused my PTSD and that was after looking into her notes. So, there was a doctor a change. There is the groups they love to put you in. As if one size fits all. But they don't.
Thrid, they are not prepared for the different types of PTSD. I was a Fire Protection Specialist in the Air Force. I had the worst thing that could happen to firefighter happen. I witnessed three children die in moblehome fire. I did not have any gear or any way of helping me to save them. But the V.A. wants to treat me as if I had been shot at, had an ID go off near me or some combat injury. I'm not trying to diminish those types of injuries by any means. But when you are put in a group of 10 to 15 people who have those type injuries and yours are like mine. You kinda feel like a goldfish thrown on a table in the middle of a bunch of cats.
First, (someone I know) The fear that PTSD Label will effect his career, future career advancements, or future careers.
Secondly, (in my case) I've been seeing V.A. Psychiatrist for years now. Some who honestly have tried to help. One who saw me for about about 18 months and forgot why or what caused my PTSD and that was after looking into her notes. So, there was a doctor a change. There is the groups they love to put you in. As if one size fits all. But they don't.
Thrid, they are not prepared for the different types of PTSD. I was a Fire Protection Specialist in the Air Force. I had the worst thing that could happen to firefighter happen. I witnessed three children die in moblehome fire. I did not have any gear or any way of helping me to save them. But the V.A. wants to treat me as if I had been shot at, had an ID go off near me or some combat injury. I'm not trying to diminish those types of injuries by any means. But when you are put in a group of 10 to 15 people who have those type injuries and yours are like mine. You kinda feel like a goldfish thrown on a table in the middle of a bunch of cats.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SrA Roy Cooper I work with a group called Sponsor a Vet Life. You shoudl check out our webinar on a Thursday evening to see what we are doing with veterans and active duty members. Totally up to you. Here is the link to sign up if you are interested:
http://www.sponsoravet.life/#!veteran-webinars/ybtiq
http://www.sponsoravet.life/#!veteran-webinars/ybtiq
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SSgt M. Har You are always welcome to sign up for one of our Thursday webinars and see how you can help if you truly would like to on a volunteer basis - everything is online, so it doesn't matter where you reside. Here is the link to sign up for a Thursday evening (after you watch the webinar there is no obligation) thanks
http://www.sponsoravet.life/#!veteran-webinars/ybtiq
http://www.sponsoravet.life/#!veteran-webinars/ybtiq
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I am personally stuck in a conundrum. I hate reliving the expieriences and talking to a shrink who just kind of looks at you with their eyes all bugged out and the total look of shock, or rather continue going through the sleepless nights for fear that I might have another "dream" but act it out and possibly injuring my wife or one of my kids. I just bear it and suck it up as best as I can. The meds that I'm on are working alright for now. The main problem is when I mention to friends that I have PTSD, the conversation abruptly ends. That is the big reason I keep it to myself. The worst thing I do is produce jumbled up posts that are confusing. The frustration of knowing what you want to say but having it come out totally nonsensical..... Yeah, that's me.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SSG Dennis Grossmann I work as a volunteer for a group called Virtual World Solutions d/b/a Sponsor a Vet Life. You should attend one of our webinars on a Thursday evening if you get a chance - this is a different approach - totally up to you. Here is the website and newsletter link: http://www.sponsoravet.life/#!newsletter/ur81e
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Tired of being a guinea pig for the latest and best so-called cure all to end all...most of the shit is killing us.
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Stigma! Constant state of denial from society. It's that way here in my town, and I am sure most of Eastern MT. People have always had the mentality of "just ignore it and it will go away" or "Cowboy Up, Bro". Yea, uhuh. If I had a switch to turn it off don't you think I would've flipped it by now? So in my opinion, that is why alot of vets in this area are afraid to get help. Or they are in that denial themselves with thinking they can just cowboy up and it will go away. People are raised that way here. It really makes me sad. It's my home town too. Not all people are that way though. But the vast majority in this region. Anyway, there's my two bits.
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TSgt Keith Wright
If we look at a few things that truely cause PTSD like religion we can begin to find cures. That is if we accept that religion causes PTSD. But then the information is based on Kaballah, (which would take a life time to comprehend about half of Kaballah, and a Doctorate in Kaballah) Understanding Enochine Magic which in itself is about a 4 year stuy, and Understanding the Lesser key of Solomon, The greater key of Solomon, Alliester Crowly, Satanisim, The Zohar which is absolutely difficult to understand, and many other subjects that teach dream stat manipulation as well as intrusive thoughts, Kaballah teaches thought sending like meditation.
But then one must question why would people meditate like that. However this is only based on ones very own opinion of accepting religion as the roots of PTSD and the solution to ptsd or the Cure is within Religion, maybe not the traditional Christian church but an organization that knows how to deal with it.
That’s my 2 cents worth, has Mental Health Come up with a cure for PTSD? I didn’t think so. And why is PTSD the one Combat injury that a Purple Heart is not awarded? Maybe its because were told to piss off and have nightmares.
http://www.amazon.com/More-Excellent-Way-Be-Health/dp/ [login to see]
But then one must question why would people meditate like that. However this is only based on ones very own opinion of accepting religion as the roots of PTSD and the solution to ptsd or the Cure is within Religion, maybe not the traditional Christian church but an organization that knows how to deal with it.
That’s my 2 cents worth, has Mental Health Come up with a cure for PTSD? I didn’t think so. And why is PTSD the one Combat injury that a Purple Heart is not awarded? Maybe its because were told to piss off and have nightmares.
http://www.amazon.com/More-Excellent-Way-Be-Health/dp/ [login to see]
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Trust and rapport. I was diagnosed with PTSD years ago, but also ASPD(Antisocial Personality Disorder), and it seems finding a qualified therapist with experience in that area has been difficult.
I know we're supposed to "talk" about it...but it doesn't do any good when we pour out our stuff on the table and the therapist or doc doesn't know what to do with it.
I know we're supposed to "talk" about it...but it doesn't do any good when we pour out our stuff on the table and the therapist or doc doesn't know what to do with it.
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