Posted on Oct 1, 2017
Capt Ross Nussbaum
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CPT Jack Durish
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There are some who fear veterans. For as much as they appreciate veterans who have killed for them, they fear the return of the "killer". Fortunately, most people are too stupid to make the connection. After all, would civilians have tormented returning Vietnam Vets as they did if they actually took a moment to think about the potential consequences of tormenting people they considered to be murderers? Maybe. Maybe they felt safe in the midst of a like-thinking mob. Now, if that veteran is seeking mental health counseling, what are they to suppose?
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CPT Jack Durish
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MSgt Robert C Aldi - True. Sadly, civilians don't discriminate. During the Vietnam War, every veteran was treated like baby killers. It didn't matter where you served or what was your MOS. Civilians didn't care. They simply assumed that we all went to Vietnam and killed babies
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MSG Floyd Williams
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MSgt Robert C Aldi - I ran into a person who I knew throughout our school days, the first thing came out of his mouth, "Floyd, how many people did you killed?" it took all my power to keep from going off on him.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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IMHO a lot of vets don't like to seek help for mental issues. They see it as a weakness.
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Also, if family, friends or coworkers found out and how they would treat them. Call it foolish pride or whatever but I don't like people treating me any different.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Amen to that brother.
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I really didn't think I changed much after returning from Iraq. I didn't think I needed any sort of counseling. My wife, after my first year back told me "get help or I'm leaving". Having such a close bond with her over 20 years at that point, and the possibility of losing my family, I went and got help. I'm a better man today because of it. Does getting help make me feel weak? In my opinion, no. It takes a stronger person to recognize they need help. In my case, after a year home, I realized I had to do something and I did.
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What are the stigmas attached to veterans seeking mental health counseling?
SPC Casey Ashfield
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Counselors are very judgemental people. CPT Morgan and J Daniels are not.

I say this with a half hearted laugh, but we all know someone like this.
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SP5 Peter Keane
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And this, too.
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Unless you're officer, they hang out with Johnny Walker. Get the gold label one its more expensive.
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MSG Floyd Williams
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The VA in my area had interns counseling us those who never served.
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SP5 Peter Keane
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I believe that with veterans the stigma is less than it once was. I know for a fact there were vets walking around for years and years, knowing something was wrong, but not able to fix it or even address it.
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CSM Richard StCyr
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Because unfortunately once you have that rose pinned to you, it's scent carries long after and across careers.
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SPC Margaret Higgins
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Capt Ross Nussbaum: My father phoned the Chaplain; while I was in the Army: to let the Chaplain know that I had been having some mental health issues. Papa knew that if he phoned an Army psychiatrist, I might get discharged from the Army. -Most Sincerely, Margaret C. Higgins U.S. Army Retired
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SGM Bill Frazer
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Damn Sir, for 200 yrs we were taught to MAN up, don't wimp out, don't fake. Any mental problems were a sure way to lose security clearances, duty positions, promotions, etc. It's a lot better now, but you still 9 out of 10 times have to go see a civilian shrink- makes you uncomfortable, doesn't seem to understand, and often has a hard time keeping their composure when you are baring your soul to them. You are talking incidents, with blood, gore and mayhem in a matter of fact way, while these pogues seldom if ever even look at an accident scene. It is damn tough to talk to anyone but other Vets about your problems and how it affects you, and it takes a long time to get in that mode. Plus you still have Hollywood going on about Vets w/PTSD flipping out in the "Normal" population.
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MSG Floyd Williams
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Some people automatically label a veteran as crazy after serving in the U.S. Armed Forces.
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It depends on the reason for seeking mental health help.

1) seeking help because you are psychotic, and aliens are telling you to kidnap the Pope= the same stigma as any other crazy person.

2) seeking help for PTSD has no stigma at all, the majority of Soldiers returning from CENTCOM have already done so.
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SGT Anna Kleinschmidt
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Sadly my son sought help for ptsd and then left active duty instead of reenlisting because his wife said she would leave. She left anyway and he wants to go back active but they won't let him because of ptsd.
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