Posted on Mar 28, 2017
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A fellow NCO and I were discussing this while reviewing the criteria for a CAB packet for Route Clearance Patrols. Our's was über limited and based on damage and injuries according to the S-1 shop. What constitutes "engaging or being actively engaged by the enemy" for other MOSes?
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CSM Charles Hayden Passed 7/29/2025
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The 'Order of Santa Barbara' would not consider this a valid question?
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Not sure that's relevant in my determining if a soldier is eligible for a CAB or not...but thanks all the same CSM?
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SGT Taylor Hughes
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As an Artilleryman myself while everyone is running for a bunker or cover when receiving IDF it’s the Artillerymen running towards their guns under fire weather it be from small arms fire or incoming enemy rockets to conduct counter fire Missions That is the definition of engaging and being engaged by the enemy fire. We hear TIC we get to the guns as fast as possible so we can cover our infantry brothers asses while at the same time receiving IDF. So yes I think they deserve it.
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SSG Roy B.
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We actually got motared daily,so kinda came with job,
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SFC Robert Pearson -SFCPearson
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Never to old for a weapon that has been perfected, another example is the M2 heavy machine gun still in service and not being replaced anytime soon.
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SFC Cannon Crew Member
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I would assume that its the same requirements as imposed on any other Soldier. Read the regulation, don't ask people for their opinion, read what it it says in black and white. I can assure you its much more stringent than the requirements for the CIB.
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PO3 Scot Fahey
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Sailors support land ops, not like you will find a sub to counter battery. Boat (crew) gets award, not cab but an award. Arty rounds kill, is this not engagement?
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SSG Edward Tilton
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I really don't care about awards but one of my triggers is having a bean counter decide my qualification. 13F is out there with the Infantry. Everyone else is either being thrown out of an airplane or a helicopter or arrives in a 30 ton armored vehicle full of explosives. Sounds like combat to me. We took 40% casualties.
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I hate to hear about the casualties.
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SSG Carlos Madden
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CPT Aaron Kletzing do you know the answer to this one?
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SGM Erik Marquez
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SSG Carlos Madden
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SGM Erik Marquez - Always swooping in with the right answer!
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