Posted on Aug 16, 2021
SSG Carlos Madden
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I can't say I'm surprised that this is all happening. Right now I'm just sad and frustrated.
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MSG Michael McKenzie
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For my part, I feel as many in this thread. We went to Afghanistan because the policy makers ordered us to. So we did, and for the most part acquitted ourselves admirably. The war was prosecuted poorly from the top leadership for political reasons. And it is ending for political reasons. That is beyond our span of control. We don't make policy, we enforce it. Afghanistan was a zero sum game before we ever entered the country. It is the graveyard of empires. Anyone who worked with the ANA knew they were not up for the challenge. Anyone who worked with Afghan generals and/ or political leaders knew they cared more about themselves than their country. Again, this is outside our span of control. Too echo the sentiment of some of my fellow contributors, this was always how it was going to end.
However, that does not diminish the acts of valor and sacrifice that were made by America's finest and our allies. I am thankful to live in a nation were the best and brightest answered the call to arms. I do not regret my service in the war, nor due I feel it is sullied somehow by events outside my control. I am humbled by the character of the men and women I served with.
Will this event tarnish our global image? Yes. Will this embolden our enemies? Probably. Yet, we will preserve. Of that, I have no doubt. My final thought, I am glad that it is over...for now.
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CDR Richard Krulis
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We never learned from our actions in Viet Nam. I flew over 800 combat missions and I know first hand that we could defeat the VC and NVA on the battlefield if the politicians would have stepped aside and let the warriors do their jobs. The evacuation and withdrawal in Afghanistan are so similar to the Saigon exodus and withdrawal. As has been said before "If we disregard history we are bound to repeat it"
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SGT Ronald Audas
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I too, watched as my so called Commander in Chief (LBJ) and his associates, made a debacle of Vietnam and Korea.Any of us that made it back,could have predicted the withdrawal failures.The first failure was to give up a strategic position.Our military airport.The mission spiraled down from there.
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MAJ Corporate Buyer
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Did anyone expect a different outcome? I'll admit that I didn't expect it this quickly but if you've ever deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, you probably knew that once we left, it would fall apart. I really hope the POTUS doesn't send troops back in.
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SFC Michael Peterson
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We don’t have a “POTUS”, we have an “ImPotus”. He’s weak, clueless, and impotent.
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SFC Michael Peterson Personal opinions aside, he's still the president. I respect the office even if I wish someone else was sitting in it.
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SPC John Donovan
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SFC Michael Peterson - You took the words right out of my mouth. I AGREE!
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SPC John Donovan
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MAJ (Join to see) - I have to think about that before I answer it. My personal opinion on this is to just stay out of discussing our POTUS.
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SSgt Dexter Dearth
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I put the blame firmly on the politicians, and the Generals that went along with their ill planned strategy. Politicians for ham stringing the military and the Generals for going along with it. Time for the high ranking generals to put up or shut up, tell the politicans no! it can't be done this way. Of course that's why you have to be a politican to make it to General. Hell, the lowest ranking private could have told you this would be the outcome 10 years ago. No way would I recommend anyone joing our military now, to much political correctness and BS vs WAR.
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SFC Randy Hellenbrand
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20 years of blood and treasure down the drain. Thanks trump.
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SPC William Bell
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1SG (Join to see) - Trump isn't to blame for the failure to evacuate the majority of Afghans who supported coalition forces as interpreters or in other ways, who now face brutal reprisal from Taliban supporters. That's totally on Biden.
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MSG Joseph Cristofaro - If you cannot deduce short term and long term consequences for presidential administrations then there is nothing left to say. This debacle dates back to reagan and even further. Bush Jr. has blame, Obama has blame, Trump has blame and Biden has blame. I have criticized democrats and republicans for a long time. That is what it is like when you don't hold allegiance to either party. I gave trump credit where he did good and criticism where he did bad. In you POV he did no bad. It's all the democrats fault all the time.
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SPC William Bell - I agree Biden botched the withdrawal. Trump is responsible for the failed negotiations with the Taliban and the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners that took Afghanistan back.
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SPC William Bell
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Of course Trump is responsible for what he did (and didn't) do as POTUS, but I'm not sure things would have turned out this way if he'd remained in charge. I think he is better at managing and negotiating than his successor, so maybe the withdrawal would've been less chaotic.
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SGT Justin Singleton
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Although I never served in Afghanistan (I was OIF), it breaks my heart to see this.
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SPC James Harper
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I was only Iraq but my father was Vietnam vet n I see similarities between Afghanistan and Vietnam. As supply specialist I feel it is a waste of time resources and troops. In my view they are same except the location and climate. Has anyone learned from history Afghanistan has been meddled with for as long as I know. Russian could not control the region so it's doomed to repeat alot. Learn from history and what there is to learn. Don't repeat same ones.
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SGT Christopher Churilla
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I did a tour over there 2011-2012. My unit had 4 KIA and another Soldier took his life. Part of me is disappointed, particularly by the fact it took less than two weeks for the Taliban to return to power. It's like their losses were in vain.

But it's balanced out by the fact we were trying to change a country that had been that way for a lot longer than 20 years. We tried to show them a new way, but either they were unable or unwilling to make that change.

Ultimately it's up to them. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
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PO1 Jon Jepsen
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"What are your feelings as the Taliban reclaim Afghanistan after 20 years of US involvement?" I think the better question is: How do we get our people (Americans and loyal Afghani's) out of Afghanistan immediately?

I served in Afghanistan long enough to make some friendships that I deeply care about. I've written numerous SIV letters in support of my Afghani comrades' SIV packages being submitted to the U.S. Dept of State. However, the US Dept of State doesn't appear to be responding. Furthermore these guys , who were loyal and helpful to US forces in Afghanistan and have their papers in order, are being turned away by the Marines at Kabul Airport. WTF is going on?!

Is anybody having any luck with the State Dept?

How do I get in touch with the guys at Task Force Dunkirk?
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CW3 Debra Irby
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I want to honor CW3 Eric Totten who was killed in 2006. I served with him in Afghanistan 2002/2003. My prayers to the family. My heart breaks as I can't imagine what they are reliving. Just know it was an honor serving with him.
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SSG Carlos Madden
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Through all this, I think about all the Gold Star families as well. As bad as this feels, it must be so much worse for them.
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