Posted on Sep 14, 2016
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I've been seeing a lot of "New Boots" that come to units with the what ever attitude and lack discipline straight out of the gate. They feel as if there the regulations (AR670-1 mostly) do not apply to them, What are some of your ideas or encounters with this topic?
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"It all leads back to our most basic training.. Discipline, Military Bearing, Attention to Detail, and the willingness to follow Orders." Perhaps we should start there. (Felt I'd summarize what I wrote more passionately below).

Personally, I think our leadership is having a hard time because the political agenda has been pushed so strongly on all branches. I do not disagree with the military moving in a direction of "professionalism" - though a lot of us have a hard time accepting this. It will ultimately make us better leaders. However, what I do have qualms with is when the political agenda starts putting our men and women at a higher risk. Changing the Rules of Engagement to the point where missions fail and people die because they cannot properly defend themselves or even neutralize an obviously aggressive or guilty enemy is not okay.. I've done enough research and read enough first hand account literature to know that something needs to be done.. But I digress.

Our leadership seems to be adjusting the military to accommodate the sensitive way of life of our "millennials" - I say this knowing full well that my age group falls into this category. This is also, not okay. We are only hurting ourselves. The military is not, and should not be all inclusive. The moment you are more afraid of kicking someone out or dropping them from training than you are pushing this person through into a warzone where they could get someone KILLED, we have failed. "Training Time Out".

We need to protect the integrity of the standards we have set for our men and women. This includes military bearing and allegiance to obey the orders we are given. I myself have been guilty of questioning the demands of my superiors, and quite frankly this type of mentality is doing us no justice. This "lawyer" and "I have rights" attitude will be our downfall. Treating everyone as peers and civilians instead of by their paygrade, is dissolving our hierarchy. The Navy can no longer yell at jacked-up Sailors, drop them for push ups, etc. We aren't even supposed to swear because it's been deemed "offensive."

We need to snap back to reality - the military is in place to protect our country and fight WARS. The enemy doesn't care about "fairness" nor "equality". They aren't going to stop shooting because you are having a bad day. SSgt isn't going to be there to tell you its okay when you forgot to bring your extra magazines and he's running low on ammo because he has to make up for the rounds you're not putting down range.. Enough is enough. Intensive training with obedient warriors is what we need, as well as the green light to put our training to use..

Lets get back into the business of producing warriors..

SMSgt Jesse Ohlsson SSG James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" COL Mikel J. Burroughs SGM Erik Marquez SSG(P) Chris Erickson MSG (Join to see) SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SMSgt Minister Gerald A. "Doc" Thomas PO1 William "Chip" Nagel SN Greg Wright
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SrA Matthew Knight
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I haven't seen too much of a problem, at least not with our newest Airmen. We've got two who came to our specific shop straight from Tech School and although they may not always abide by certain rules I drum it up to them not being informed of said rules or regs in the first place. Either that or they get the impression they can slide by because they see superiors doing it.

It's a lot about how supervision projects themselves around those new troops. It's hard for a leader to get on someone's case about breaking a rule when the leader them self is breaking the rule. I'm not saying this is what's happening in your case but it wouldn't hurt to observe yourself and your fellow NCOs when working with your younger soldiers to make sure you aren't possibly giving them a bad impression on how things work.
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SSG Stephan Pendarvis
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They are smarter and that is good on one side of the coin but on the other they question things or are lazy or feel entitled.
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