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It's often unauthorized. What pros and cons do you see about this policy? Do you believe this can help Soldiers with fitness or morale?
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I see soldiers injured from simply doing there jobs at work. I see them injured at regular PT also. We don't cancel either of those. I believe that some commands are too afraid of even the smallest injury, this is why a lot of units are not allowed to do sports. If you actually engage a sport the way you are supposed to, you will get more exercise out of it then you would a regular PRT session.
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SGT (Join to see)
You brought up a great point, SSG. Sometimes, I wish certain sports were played often enough to validate recommending Soldiers to buy cleats or shoes & apparel appropriate for the sport or event.
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I think it would be awesome to play sports once a week or every other week. PT is boring, running the same path, doing the same exercises. Besides, sports can be a team building exercise much like obstacle courses. With sports though it definitely requires people to work together more then each individual person completing each part of the course.
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SGT (Join to see)
I wish it were easier to take advantage of obstacle courses. Running one in full kit would definitely be a workout.
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I personally don't care for it because as much as it does build cohesion I have see the downside of not including everyone. I think if you're going to do sports make it competitive but not individually.
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SGT (Join to see)
Some sports can end up more focused on a better player, especially basketball. Thanks for adding a different point of view, sir.
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I think it should be authorized because you always need to build moral within the platoon and company. Sure there's the possibility of someone getting hurt but you can run the risk of someone getting hurt in PT everyday.
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SGT (Join to see)
No argument here. I'll add everyday life to that as well and additional duties - Airborne.
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Sports really do help with moral and team building. The PRT that they allow us to do is not the best in the world and is so structured it brings down the motivation of the soldiers.
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SGT (Join to see)
PRT can be boring. Sometimes, you have to use some creativity, different types of resistance, and a competitive edge to keep things interesting.
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I think sports for PT is a good idea, as long as it is not everyday. Playing ultimate or something along those lines, brings in a lot more unit cohesion than normal PT. People tend to put out more effort in sports anyway due to the competition.
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CPT (Join to see)
They just made the dot on the ACUs smaller because we kept being saluted by privates who thought that we were LTCs.
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SGT (Join to see)
That's a good fun fact. Random question - Does a Cadet learn about all branches' rank structures or just the branch of which he/she plans to join?
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CPT (Join to see)
We learn about all of them since I go to a school with all four branches. But the schools with only the one ROTC probably only learn their branch.
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SGT (Join to see)
I didn't know anything about that. I've had to read up on other rank structures and talk with SMs of other branches to understand how to address others properly.
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We used to play a sport every other week or so, usually on a Friday as a weekend wind down. There is not that much more risk of injury from organized sports as there is from a PT regimen. We would play soccer, flag football, ultimate Frisbee any kind of open field team sport. Basketball was one of the few sports not allowed during PT time.
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
A barracks NCO next building over had a huge black eye/face after she was beened by a baseball for squadon PT. Probably put a damper on he dating life.
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MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca
Baseball was not considered a PT sport simply because you weren't constantly moving
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PO2 Terry Lewis
I played basket ball a bit for pt till they shut that down... it improved my run by about 30 secs....
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SGT (Join to see)
Changes can be good for the body, especially fitness. Basketball does seem to get the most injuries compared to soccer and ultimate football/Frisbee. I hate that Frisbee.
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SGT (Join to see) Great question here.... I'm a huge personal advocate of sports PT. I helped start a modified Rugby league with Maj (Join to see) & Maj (Join to see) at Kirtland AFB. Had to put in a ton of non-contact rules so folks wouldn't get hurt, but overall it was a huge success with Squadron leadership and military personnel. I left the area several years ago and my old unit has kept the tradition of "Ultimate Rugby" alive every Friday and Wednesday. We never fought the PT Gods on having it authorized or sanctioned, but it helped to have the support of our commander and it did a lot for unit cohesion and moral.
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SGT (Join to see)
Your PT Gods seemed to have been kind to you, Sir. In the few places I've been, the PT Gods were proactive, just, and jealous. The wrath upon those who betrayed such commandments was always felt throughout the entire Chain of Command within the lands.
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SGT Spratley,
when I was at my first duty station, Ft. Stewart, we would sneak off occasionally for some s-2 vs. s-6 ultimate football or frisbee. our NCOICs and OICs were always on board. Here at Bragg, we do Spiritual Fitness a few times a month, in which the Chaplain sponsors a game of ultimate football or frisbee. Our CO and 1SG always take place, and recently, our BC and CSM played as well.
I think sports pt is a great way to build morale in units. I enjoy and my Soldiers eat it up. I think it fosters teamwork in the long run.
when I was at my first duty station, Ft. Stewart, we would sneak off occasionally for some s-2 vs. s-6 ultimate football or frisbee. our NCOICs and OICs were always on board. Here at Bragg, we do Spiritual Fitness a few times a month, in which the Chaplain sponsors a game of ultimate football or frisbee. Our CO and 1SG always take place, and recently, our BC and CSM played as well.
I think sports pt is a great way to build morale in units. I enjoy and my Soldiers eat it up. I think it fosters teamwork in the long run.
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SGT (Join to see)
Spiritual Fitness? I may have to inquire about that with the Chaplain. I'm more used to the sneaking off part.
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I dont think sports should be a substitute for PT. I believe in sports activities to boost morale for sure. Here at charleston we have Chief Fun-fridays, which are all sports events that pit the AMUs against each other in physical challenges, which is great.
However sports is not a good measure for fitness standards. You cant determine strengths and weaknesses from sports in the same manner you can from traditional fitness training. Besides there is a reason athletes go to the gym, and TRAIN to compete in sports.
Not to mention sports is not controlled, you are more prone to injury competing in a sport, than you are properly training in a gym. Tearing an FCL playing soccer, does not make you stronger.
However sports is not a good measure for fitness standards. You cant determine strengths and weaknesses from sports in the same manner you can from traditional fitness training. Besides there is a reason athletes go to the gym, and TRAIN to compete in sports.
Not to mention sports is not controlled, you are more prone to injury competing in a sport, than you are properly training in a gym. Tearing an FCL playing soccer, does not make you stronger.
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SFC (Join to see)
doing a sport day once a week is not going to detract from the physical fitness every soldier needs. not everyone can work out in a gym for PT., my entire BN is not allowed in the gym during PT hours unless you are on profile. If the NCO's ensure everyone is participating then everyone would get something out of what they are doing. for those that just don't care, well, they would do the same at regular PT anyway.
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SrA (Join to see)
Perhaps, however the question posed, is "What are your thoughts on Sports for PT?" Not "What are your thoughts on Sports once a week in lieu of PT." Even so, while Sports are great for morale, they are not a viable substitute for actual Physical fitness training. I completely agree that squadron sports and other moral related outdoor activities should be available, and on most stations they already are. However I don't think they should count as PT. You don't need a gym for PT. All you need is a track and a pad.
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SGT (Join to see)
SFC (Join to see), you're not the only one in a battalion not allowed to touch a gym during PT times. SrA (Join to see), you both have good points. However, the question is geared toward the fact that many Army units that are authorized to conduct sports for training do so only once a week (Friday) when possible. It's not purely about improving fitness, although it can to an extent.
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