Posted on Jul 7, 2024
What are your thoughts on the Army eliminating the MP Corps?
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I have seen many posts on Facebook in the Oldschool 95B page talking about the Army either eliminating the MP Corps or eliminating Garrison Law Enforcement from the mission.
I've heard this rumor before, even when I was still in 35+ years ago. I do believe base law enforcement duties stateside will become more and more commonly handled by DOD Police allowing more personnel assigned to units to handle the changing and evolving wartime mission. There's been criticism about "civilian" police enforcing the laws on base, but the DOD Police aren't civilian. They work under the same authority and enforce all military regulations and policies as the MPs do. They also have the same responsibility to the UCMJ as any military member. I see no issues here. What do you say?
I've heard this rumor before, even when I was still in 35+ years ago. I do believe base law enforcement duties stateside will become more and more commonly handled by DOD Police allowing more personnel assigned to units to handle the changing and evolving wartime mission. There's been criticism about "civilian" police enforcing the laws on base, but the DOD Police aren't civilian. They work under the same authority and enforce all military regulations and policies as the MPs do. They also have the same responsibility to the UCMJ as any military member. I see no issues here. What do you say?
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I was Military Police for thirty-years, as I also served in Correction, attended Military Security as well as Special Operation and I also served with DOD Police, they are just as qualify as military police and that free up Military Police to participate in field training, preparing them for the Battlefields condition.
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Personally I think it is stupid, reckless and an invitation for problems. This smacks of political maneuvering and some pencil pushing number cruncher selling this as a great idea because it means that they are delegating these functions to non war fighters and shifting military personnel over to different areas.
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PFC Pamala (Hall ) Foster
SPC Richard White I am in full agreement. The decision is truly stupid, narrow-minded, and ignorant. Are these DoD cops well-trained Combative fighters if the need arises-like say, someone "rams the gate" and then goes to fight with one of them? Many have trained in Moi Thai, Bah Ritsu, Judo, Karate, just to name a few styles of fighting, and I have seen a few fights and sparring matches, where some of the MPs look like they could have put Brock Lesnar and Conor McGregor to the ground if they had the chance because they were that well trained! I have also been reading, and now that I am a Paralegal, I am understanding the vital necessity for a well-trained Military Police Officer because detail means everything when you are preparing for any court case.
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The navy does things like this on occasion, too. "We can save money by eliminating/merging this rating!!!"
Eventually, we re-introduce the rating. I'm still waiting for someone to have the common sense to split the LS ratings back into AK/SK. At that point, I can retire, since clear heads will have finally returned.
Eventually, we re-introduce the rating. I'm still waiting for someone to have the common sense to split the LS ratings back into AK/SK. At that point, I can retire, since clear heads will have finally returned.
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DOD Police will protect the Troops and installations for their paychecks and overtime Military Police will protect the same based on honor, espirit de corps, soldiering and most of all with their lives OF THE TROOPS AND FOR THE TROOPS!!! Garrison Law Enforcement should be handled by MP’s, MPI, and CID civilian and government departments should be used in a secondary role or for ground and air transportation to permanent correctional facilities
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I think that it was a bad decision. I was a 95B10 and you need people that are of the troops to police the troops. These Dod are just rent a cops.
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SGT Greg Knytych
I was also old school 95B and worked with the DOD police in 2 posts stateside and they are fully authorized to enforce UCMJ, and most are former MP or SP in the Army, Marines or Air Force. A lot of it depends on what the Provost Marshal; allows them to do. Some only allow guard duties and others allow full law enforcement. They were on patrol with me and the other MPs and did a great job.
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Or, they can do what they did to us in the Air Guard. They made us (USAF Security Police) attend a 2 week Peace Officers course with the Sheriff’s Department. Which indemnified us on the civilian side of the house for civilian incidents, and to enforce the UCMJ on the military side of the house.
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SGT Greg Knytych
The MP School covers all of that and we were fully trained law enforcement as well as trained in the various wartime missions, such as POW Camps, Scouting and Reconnaissance, Traffic Control of troop movement, etc...
In my CONUS stations I was allowed to attend the 13-week Arizona Law Enforcement Academy (ALETA) in Tucson, AZ. This helped with enforcing Civilian Laws on base and made us equal to US Marshals.
In my CONUS stations I was allowed to attend the 13-week Arizona Law Enforcement Academy (ALETA) in Tucson, AZ. This helped with enforcing Civilian Laws on base and made us equal to US Marshals.
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As a former enlisted man, I HATE MPs! But someone has to do this kind of duty, so it's unlikely to ever happen. Remember, MPs don't just persecute poor, innocent soldiers. They also serve as traffic cops, provide rear-area security, and guard POWs.
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I don't see how they could remove military police units. One huge problem would come in combat zones. It is the MP units that deal with prisoners of war and others. They are also responsible for flow of military traffic and checkpoints for that traffic. Who do they think they will use in the next war? Civilian DoD employees in a combat zone? Yea good luck with that.
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