Posted on Oct 17, 2019
SPC Ted Ronayne
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For any CI soldiers out there... I'm looking at 35L (Counterintelligence agent) as a future career move. Everyone focuses on the strat side... I want to know more about tactical CI. Keeping with OPSEC of course...

What could someone expect being part of a CI team in either an E-MI BN or an E-MIB. What sort of training do CI agents get regularly (how often do they do MOS training, warrior tasks/tactical training, etc)?

Also, on deployment do CI teams go outside the wire/go on missions? If so, do they operate organically with maneuver units or do they operate in their own teams? Does this MOS see combat?

Also, are CI products generally written reports or PowerPoints (aside from TARP and SAEDA briefs) I understand they have their own section on Annex B...

If you don't want to discuss it here. Feel free to PM me... Or we can use enterprise email if you so wish.

Thank you.
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I’m at an IBCT and our 35L’s mostly do 35F stuff lol
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SFC Thomas Foreman - if the trojan goes down, they tinker with that. They make sure the server stacks are dress-right-dress. If you need some orange classification stickers for new monitors, a Tango probably has a box of them somewhere. The Tango warrant usually had time to run the 2shop betting pools for the Super Bowl, ncaa tournament and other stuff, too. Out of curiosity, why don’t you have use for the other 35-series?

SPC Ted Ronayne everyone has a different perspective, but in my experience, the 35M/L jobs were boring and nearly irrelevant. They didn’t do much, what they did do wasn’t that great, and not a lot was expected of them. The Princes of pocket trash.
That stated, while no MI mos is going to be an every day Johnny door Kicker, the best way to get out and see the world is to reclass to 35N and try to go Airborne. An airborne qualified November is like gold for the Army.

Another interesting avenue looking into is Great Skills. I think you have to be SPC-SFC to qualify, but they do some...interesting...stuff. Email a usased recruiter and they’ll give more details.

Anyway, don’t be in such a rush to get shot at. Foreman’s correct. It’s overrated.
Best of luck.
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SGT (Join to see) - 35 M/L jobs are far from irrelevant. They can appear that way in a couple of cases. If their leadership does not know how to use them, or if they are lazy. They both have some similar roles in deployed scenarios, but at home the mission is quite different. 35L man the 902nd Field Offices, and are responsible for the heavy lifting in a lot of important investigations. If you aren't part of the 902nd, you can still end up at a unit which has a stateside mission. Skills is a good spot, but you typically have to be experienced and already damn good at your job to get in, and have some serious motivation.
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CW2 (Join to see) - of course, everyone has a role to play. But if i had a gun to my head, and the choice was, ‘pick a 35series mos that you could afford to deploy without’, it would definitely be M (followed by L).
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Sounds like someone had a bad experience. Considering I'm cross trained as both, it makes me sad to see you see us (me) as so little value.
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MAJ Matthew Arnold
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Hey, they're spooks. You don't see spooks. No one sees spooks. No one knows what spooks do. No one knows where spooks are. And, if they did, they couldn't tell you. Right Tim?

You'll have to ask Colonel Flagg, in the picture above.
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SPC Ted Ronayne
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Yes sir I've heard that alot haha! Their most up to date FM is classified so I can't get much info.
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SPC Ted Ronayne
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The nerdiest I'll go is Magic the gathering
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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SPC Ted Ronayne magic the gathering is just D&D for low ASVAB scorers
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What do army Counterintelligence agents (35L) do at the tactical level?
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I’m in an E-MI Bn. Shoot me a message and we can chat a little.
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SPC Ted Ronayne
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Excellent, thank you!
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From a tactical stand point, you will complete normal Soldiering duties like taskings, motorpool, etc. While deployed you will conduct CI activities on the base you are on, no outside the wire missions unless with a different organization. Deployed, we are the shield trying to protect inside the wire from the bad guys.
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SPC Ted Ronayne
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Roger that 1SG. Perhaps my best bet is to go 35m at some point, and look at Lima as a later career option.
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I was stationed surreptiously overseas & ran into 1 of the spooks who knew what I did (& I knew what he did, to some extent). After I recognized him from afar, I told my Supervisor that he knew me. My supervisor talked to his supervisor. We then met, accidentally, at a function. E-MI Bn is new terminology to me (I ETS's during the Persian Gulf Blockade), but he & I were both members of the 311th MI BN w/101st.
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SPC Ted Ronayne
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E-MI BN and and E-MIB are expeditionary MI battalions and Brigades respectively. According to current doctrine, CI assets are at those levels and pushed down to BCTs or lower depending on the requests of the BCT commander.
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SPC Ted Ronayne Then I would think it likely they would have the spooks I knew. I think they were in our BN 'cause there was nowhere else for them at the time.
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When did the Army change the MOS from 97B to 35L?
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MAJ Matthew Arnold
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A funny thing happened at lunch at the NATO HQ, AFCENT HQ, dining hall one day long ago. I have a friend who maybe possibly might have been a CI spook. I walked into the dining hall and there was this table full of guys in civilian clothes (everyone else goes to the dining hall in uniform) and my friend, who shall henceforth be called Casper, was sitting with this group of maybe possibly spooks all having lunch together. I remember thinking, well, if Casper if there, then that must be a table full of spooks. I also remember thinking it wouldn't be too hard to get a list and pictures of all the spooks in AFCENT HQ. I seriously would not do anything like that, but it wouldn't be too hard for the wrong guy to do it.
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