Posted on Jun 12, 2016
SSG Emergency Action Controller / Ops Nco
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This is a general question. If you have a soldier who refuses to listen to you, as a non-commissioned officer, do you simply put the incident on paper?

Example given- A soldier has unauthorized sunglasses on in a formation. You tell the soldier to take the sunglasses off. He/she refuses.


On the 4856, do you recommend for UCMJ? I've gone thru 600-20 and cannot find anything regarding this
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Capt Retired
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To provide the best answer to your question try this.

Find a good NCO that you trust. Refuse to follow directions.

The answer will become apparent.
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SSG Red Leader
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What's a formation?
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SSG Howitzer Section Chief
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With how the army is going nowadays, all you can do is put everything on paper. Document everything, that way if that same SM screws up or acts out again you can deal with them accordingly.
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PV2 Adam Young
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I understand the UCMJ, and abiding by it. But sometimes things make no sense. What does wearing sunglasses in formation hinder you from? The only problem I see here is him saying no to an NCO period. Its just some dog and pony show nowa days.
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CN Kenneth Rich
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Under ucmj any lawful order not followed is a criminal offense and punishable by court martial and a dishonorable discharge
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1stLt Kevin Paige
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My NCOs Sgt Vale Price, Sgt Doug Culp would still be beating that ass 25 years later.
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SFC Medical Specialist
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Order given ,order refused. Seems pretty cut and dry to me
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MSgt Bill Loveli
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Sunglasses in FORMATION! OK for you, army.
The Marine Corps does not permit ANY sunglasses in formation
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MAJ Armor Officer
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After I made sure I heard that correctly, Half right, Face! Smoke them all. Let peer pressure deal with it. Then call him in for counseling on paper. And assignment to kp
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SGT Lou Haarstick
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GIVE SNUFFY AN ORDER ...IF HE DOES NOT COMPLY HAVE HIM ESCORTED TO THE 1ST SHIRT FOR ART15 PERIOD.
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