Posted on Jun 20, 2015
What do you make of Camp Lejuene's recent crackdown on the display of DOD vehicle decals?
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Officials at one of the country's largest Marine bases are doubling down on efforts to get troops to comply with vehicle decal requirements despite several Defense Department-wide warnings to service members and their families to conceal their military affiliations following recent terror threats.
Marine officials at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, issued an advisory reminding all personnel working or stationed aboard the base to properly display DoD vehicle decals. Going without may result in a ticket, according to Lejeune officials, who say recent heightened security measures have revealed that many on base don't comply with the decal requirement.
The policy, which applies to the whole Marine Corps, contrasts with guidance issued by the Pentagon's Force Protection Agency to all DoD personnel in October in response to threats from the Islamic State group. The agency recommended that all DoD personnel "remove any [military] decals or identifiers from clothing and vehicles."
This decal requirement has become increasingly controversial. Because of the stickers' prominent windshield placement and the information they convey, some believe they jeopardize the safety of troops and their families instead of protecting it.
The Navy got rid of vehicle decals in 2013, citing similar security concerns. The Army and Air Force have also dispensed with them. A decision regarding the Corps' decals policy is pending at Marine Corps Installations Command, but officials say no new rules have been implemented yet.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/06/19/decal-confusion-prompts-policy-crackdown-lejeune/28858437/
Marine officials at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, issued an advisory reminding all personnel working or stationed aboard the base to properly display DoD vehicle decals. Going without may result in a ticket, according to Lejeune officials, who say recent heightened security measures have revealed that many on base don't comply with the decal requirement.
The policy, which applies to the whole Marine Corps, contrasts with guidance issued by the Pentagon's Force Protection Agency to all DoD personnel in October in response to threats from the Islamic State group. The agency recommended that all DoD personnel "remove any [military] decals or identifiers from clothing and vehicles."
This decal requirement has become increasingly controversial. Because of the stickers' prominent windshield placement and the information they convey, some believe they jeopardize the safety of troops and their families instead of protecting it.
The Navy got rid of vehicle decals in 2013, citing similar security concerns. The Army and Air Force have also dispensed with them. A decision regarding the Corps' decals policy is pending at Marine Corps Installations Command, but officials say no new rules have been implemented yet.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/06/19/decal-confusion-prompts-policy-crackdown-lejeune/28858437/
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SSgt Kenneth Langwell Take it easy there big guy, don't get your panties in a wad.
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SSgt Kenneth Langwell Hey brother whatever makes you feel good. I can see you don't have very thick skin. Lighten up Francis it's just a meme.
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I believe our Marine brethren are behind on this one! While I get it, it is nice to be able to park in those reserved parking places at the PX/BX, it is time to get rid of those stickers and get with the program.
If you must keep the sticker, change the presentation of the sticker onto a card that can be kept in the glove compartment, displaying it only while on post and removing the card prior to departing post....this is not something hard to figure out!
If you must keep the sticker, change the presentation of the sticker onto a card that can be kept in the glove compartment, displaying it only while on post and removing the card prior to departing post....this is not something hard to figure out!
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Being a Marine myself, this is a hard-headed decision that may not change until something happens...that would be a preventable leadership failure. General Dunford should consider making this change official prior to assuming his Joint Staff duties.
The Marine Corps is a very prestigious and proud organization that should do better to protect its Marines from potential homegrown threats...every other service does.
The Marine Corps is a very prestigious and proud organization that should do better to protect its Marines from potential homegrown threats...every other service does.
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Playing both sides of the fence here. Being from the Law Enforcement side, it has helped numerous times in indentfying the owner of the vehicle for things like illegal parking, abandonded vehicle, unauthorized driving to even a couple of misappropriated vehicles. It also helps to a degree in keeping many honest with current registration and insurance.
Many times I have seen it where no DOD decal led to no current registration or insurance or a suspended license, etc... The Marine Corps makes it a big deal in certain situations, not to tow a vehicle or similar without using all means necessary to contact the owner.
That is very difficult when you look up "John Smith" who has his home of record state with some address there. John Smith with DOD decal is serving with this unit and works in this shop.
People can use lots of different justifications and some make valid points about the decals. There is no excuse about terrorism awareness when your car has stickers about your status or affiliation with the military.
You cannot use such a excuse when you have your rank on a sticker, a stick figure family sticker to include your animals or your status as a servicemembers spouse. So many of those do not have decals. They can come up with alternatives, but no matter what they come up with, the population will complain on how it affects them.
This is not a recent discovery of no DOD decals, there was no enforcement of rules and regulations. There are many Marine Corps bases that you will never get on without a decal or visitors pass. It just was enforced and the leadership turned the other way.
Many times I have seen it where no DOD decal led to no current registration or insurance or a suspended license, etc... The Marine Corps makes it a big deal in certain situations, not to tow a vehicle or similar without using all means necessary to contact the owner.
That is very difficult when you look up "John Smith" who has his home of record state with some address there. John Smith with DOD decal is serving with this unit and works in this shop.
People can use lots of different justifications and some make valid points about the decals. There is no excuse about terrorism awareness when your car has stickers about your status or affiliation with the military.
You cannot use such a excuse when you have your rank on a sticker, a stick figure family sticker to include your animals or your status as a servicemembers spouse. So many of those do not have decals. They can come up with alternatives, but no matter what they come up with, the population will complain on how it affects them.
This is not a recent discovery of no DOD decals, there was no enforcement of rules and regulations. There are many Marine Corps bases that you will never get on without a decal or visitors pass. It just was enforced and the leadership turned the other way.
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Growing up in the 80s, it was an expeditious means to let the guards know the ID of who was coming on base/post. They used to just waive people on with the exception of the monthly 100% ID card check and the one time we had our car searched randomly.
Now that we always have 100% ID card checks, the decals have little purpose anymore.
Now that we always have 100% ID card checks, the decals have little purpose anymore.
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I was recently at Lejeune a couple weeks ago on a VIP invitation. Although I did have to get a window card for the rental car, the amount and timing of personal information submitted bothered me a bit. I have also been onboard naval ships in the past and the lead time and amount of information required to do that background check was considerably more than at Lejeune. Perhaps technology has streamlined this but knowing the military's propensity for screwing things up I doubt it. Perhaps an innocuous 'stealth' sticker that can be laser scanned, but otherwise appears to be nothing of any consequence?
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That's just silly. I've never liked those stupid things. Isn't having a valid ID enough?
I've noticed at Naval Air Station Jacksonville (where I work part time as a contractor now a days), the gate guard has a hand held device which is linked to DEERS so the gate guard can scan your ID card to verify that it's still good and that you have base access.
So what's the problem here????
I've noticed at Naval Air Station Jacksonville (where I work part time as a contractor now a days), the gate guard has a hand held device which is linked to DEERS so the gate guard can scan your ID card to verify that it's still good and that you have base access.
So what's the problem here????
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I don't think that these scan guns are the greatest and have flaws, but are a much more reliable method (when they work) to validating someone for base access.
Unless said scan gun proceeds to tell the gate guard that you have 2 active IDs and deny you base access when you have never lost/misplaced an ID and have always turned them in to PASS/ID thereby making you late for a duty day and a watch. --- that was a horrible day.----
Unless said scan gun proceeds to tell the gate guard that you have 2 active IDs and deny you base access when you have never lost/misplaced an ID and have always turned them in to PASS/ID thereby making you late for a duty day and a watch. --- that was a horrible day.----
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Sesame Street - One of these things - Circles
One of many "One of these things segments".This one abour circles.
I got my quality education from the oldest of schools. Those stickers aren't getting you on any installation without your military ID, so the only thing behind the insistance of this compliance MUST be that the base commanders spouse must have missed out on 'their' privlidged parking spot and had to walk the extra 50 feet. Let this horse die with dignity. Semper Fi, Marines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FClGhto1vIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FClGhto1vIg
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The Corps is behind on this one. We should emphasize tactics over traditions.
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