Posted on Feb 15, 2016
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One of the things I've wrestled with since transitioning to a light formation is downsizing and not bringing unnecessary gear now that I have to carry it all. The only piece of gear I haven't found a good replacement for so far is my map board. (See the attached image). My plexiglass map board worked great when I could simply stick it in the turret when I didn't need it. Its pretty much useless now that I have to dig it out of my ruck to navigate. At a minimum I need to be able to quickly access my map, graphics, target list worksheet, and reports. What are my fellow light leaders using to replace this bulky piece?
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Go to supply and get a flight crew book. It's a small, blue notebook with rings. Inside of it, is basically smaller sheet protectors. I use this for all of my reporting formats, leaders book info (names, battle rosters, blood types, serial numbers, etc) and for any map overlays that I may need.
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LTC Barry Hull
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Tis heavy but I have used it.
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MAJ Thomas Person it would be nice if I had an FSO to control fires for me. In nearly 10 years in the RC I've yet to see an FO or FSO actually attached to a unit for training or deployment. 99% of the time I call all of the pre-planned fires myself, which is why I like to have a target list or an overlay to look at. The training mission we're running in April is 6 klick straight-line movement, so you're correct in that I should be able to work off of one sheet.
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MAJ Joe Pimentel
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I agree. That is what we used in the old days, prior to 2003. You can customize it with whatever you need.
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1stSgt Sergeant Major/First Sergeant
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Flight Crew Checklist book is great, but do NOT use alcohol pens on the pages. It stains.
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Seriously you're going to laugh. Glad brand press and seal. I used it for my land nav at wlc, my map went into puddles and swamp, it stayed dry. I brought it with me in country. It provides a perfect seal around maps, and you can use dry erase, pencils, pens, and sharpies on it. A roll of it is a lifesaver. Plus you can fold it if you need t.
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SSgt Military Police
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Sir, it is super light too!
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LTC Paul Labrador
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If it's stupid but it works, its not stupid.
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MAJ Operations Officer (S3)
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Your post reminds me of the saying: "If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid." I'll have to look into it.
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SSgt Military Police
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One more perk, unlike laminated, you can seperate it and it doesn't damage papers underneath. That honestly is my favorite sayin.
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Sir- You need to get a "Hobbit" map. Its a map special, made at the Hobbit Shop, just outside the gate of Fort Bragg. They take orders over the phone, and will hobbitize your map, regardless of your current duty station.

A hobbit map is a standard 1:50k, broken down into multiple sections, on the backside of my hobbit map, I would attach FSCM, reporting cheatsheets, and any whatever else i needed. Best part, when it's all folded up, it fits perfectly in the center compartment of your Army-issued TAPS. Throw any overlays, and whatever else you need in there. It worked great for me throughout 3.5 years as a light 1SG.

If you have more questions about what I mean, or want pictures of what I'm talking about, I will send them to you via another medium. Just reply back here and we'll get the ball rolling.
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1SG Hhc First Sergeant
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Ohh and SFC (Join to see) has a decent idea with the flight crew book. My problem with that is, it's just another weight in my rucksack. And there's no way in hell I'm carrying it in my cargo pocket. It just wasn't as accessible as I'd hoped. I tried it at first before moving to my hobbit solution.
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SFC Instructor
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Fortunately for myself, I didn't have to track 80-200 soldiers, like a 1sg would. Being a recon TL, I kept it in my butt pack attached to me at all times, that way it's easily accessible, but still out of the way if I'm stalking. It definitely would fit in a cargo pocket, though. I never really kept my map in there though. Always just laminated that and put it in my chest rig.
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1SG Hhc First Sergeant
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SFC (Join to see) - Yeah brother, I was once a recce TL too...those were the good days - just you and your hide site and your radios. And I got to be a recce 1SG for two years before moving on, so it all worked out well. If you ever get the chance to be a Recon Troop 1SG, do it. I spent a year as a Rifle Company 1SG too, but man, best two years I've had in the Army, with the best recon Soldiers around.
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1SG could I possibly get pictures of what you used?
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What do you recommend as an infantry ready map board in the field?
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Here's another idea for the overlays problem, introduced to me by the foreign legion- use a typical laminated map. Lay packing tape on top of your map for your general AOR, with a pull tab built into the end. Draw, write, plot, whatever you need to do on top of the packing tape. When you're finished, you can lay more packing tape on top to waterproof it. Then, in the event of compromise, you can rip the whole thing off, and your mission will remain a secret.
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1LT William Clardy
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SFC (Join to see), your mission only remains secret if you also destroy the packing tape ensemble (got a match?). Otherwise it's all still right there waiting to get re-aligned on the map.
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SFC Instructor
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Do you ever write exact grids on your map sir? I don't. It's more of a sterile overlay without the alignment markers that you post lower right and upper left when making an overlay. Without those markings, good luck finding out where to align it on a 1:50,000 map sheet, especially after its been crumbled into a mess of packing tape
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SFC Instructor
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Also, 1LT William Clardy there's a book of matches in every MRE. As well as almost every grunt I know carrying a Bic in his pocket
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1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
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If you think it's at all difficult to discern where the overlay goes on the map sheet, as I learned from a friend who would unwrap and then rewrap her Christmas presents (so perfectly you'd have a hard time detecting the rewrap job), peeling tape off a smooth surface leaves behind gummy traces which work well as alignment marks while refastening the tape. When the area around it is smudged and grimy, it's even easier to spot that area which had been protected from the grime. Unwadding a crumpled-up multi-layer patch of tape is actually easier than untangling string, because the tape is stiffer and resists getting wadded too tightly.

Hence my recommendation to destroy the tape overlay, so that it's just a bunch of melted plastic. For that, unless MRE matches are easier to light than the old C ration ones, I'd go straight for the Bic, SFC (Join to see).

Just to be clear, I'm not saying your idea is bad -- quite the contrary. I'm just offering some not-necessarily-obvious pointers that should make it more likely to work in a crunch.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
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Finger and dirt if you really want to go light.
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I had the very same issue: my first assignment was with a mechanized infantry battalion, and the map board was key, but my second assignment was with a light infantry battalion, and my nice, big map board just didn't fit in my cargo pocket. My solution was to make a mini-map board that DID fit in my cargo pocket. Same concept as the big one, just smaller; it was maybe 5 x 8 or so, perfect for the cargo pocket or sticking in a cargo carrier on the IBA. I commanded two light infantry companies (a rifle company and an HHC), in Iraq and at Ft. Riley, for a total of just about 31 months, and I used my mini-map board the whole time.
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LTC Jason Bartlett
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I did the same thing and it works great, lasted all 9 years in "Rakkasans".
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I really like the flight book idea. I didn't know it existed. At my level I didn't need much for maps so I always kept it simple. Laminated maps or ziplocks. I used pencil during the opord with very little markings and abbreviated bullet notes that only my squad / section could interpret. Once sealed I used sharpie for hard references and dry erase for variable references. If something changed the dry erase removed the sharpie. Fine tip marking pens worked best since I like to see under the writing. I'm going to try the flight book and I thing I'm going to give the glad press n seal a try. So many great ideas on here. Reports I always wrote the line in sharpie and then I would add the variable info in dry erase on the go. I made my own shorthand so it was fast and I wasn't standing on objective doing administration type stuff for too long. I've always kept a low profile admin pouch on my kit right under my name tape. It's modified for what I need and excess was cut and trimmed off. It's also where I mount moral patches... ;-)
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I used the shiny self-adhesive acetate (the thinner matte kind will permanently stain with alcohol pens and non-permanent pens are worthless in a light mode). Get two maps and cut the first one to the size you desire (cargo-pocket size worked the best for me). Then acetate them (front and back) and tape the seams with 100mph tape to lower moisture seepage at the edges. Use more 100mph tape to create "hinges" between sections so you can fold the whole map...the other map is so you can cut it offset from the first to account for the areas the tape overlapped. The flight crew book others mention is ideal for the other things you might have to carry as a leader, but this can go in your backpack or assault pack as you don't need it all the time. Anything you need readily (areas to sketch, notes, etc...) can be done by leaving part of the backside of the map uncovered by the 100mph tape. That way you have a nice white area to mark on. If you're looking for a less permanent solution, clothing sales will usually have something like this (http://www.tacticalnotebookcovers.com/store/map_cases/tactical_admin_data_organizer_map_case.htm). If not, try a Ranger Joes, US Cav store, or whatever the local civilian tactical store is near your post. These map covers fold up nicely and will hold a map sheet folded in two. The advantage here is you can change out maps. The disadvantage is you can't write on them and expect the map to stay in place (plus permanent markers are usually permanent on these).
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Well there CPT being an 11MJ3 years ago and platoon Daddy/Leader I use to laminate my maps then I used green duck tape and cardboard for backing and sprayed waterproof spray on the back of it when it was done for I did have the same thing but now it was more flexible and water proof then what I had like you. Improvise is key here and lots of imagination when you a Mechanized Infantry Grunt. Master Gunner class of 90'. 5/18 mech inf batallion, "Spartans
kills Tanks" Friedburg Germany Desert Storm 91'!!!! 3AD Spearhead.....Capt Cloy awesome Company Commander!!! Ohh Waaa!!!!
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MG class of 90!?!? Now there's some old school there. MG class 4-00 here. You don't by chance remember CSM Crivello(sp?). He was on the test committee for the Brad and helped write the POI for MG School. He was my BN CSM when I was at Ft Stewart, and spoke at my graduation from MG School in 00.
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SFC John Kraft
SFC John Kraft
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Hi My fellow Mike Gulf MG, no I would not know him for I was an Master Gunner Instructor at bldg 5500 for 3 yrs from 1996-98 and then Smadge (CSM) put me as brigade staff duty NCO for one year then the last year he told me to just call in every 4 days to make sure I was alive...lol I was retiring Jan 1 2001. For CSM Crivello must have came after I left the school house. For if you had a picture or something of him I might be able to remember the guy.
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SFC John Kraft
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My CSM Thompson told me I was still to wound up from being in a TO&E units to long and from fighting in Desert Storm, then he told me to go to Drill Instructor school I told him he is out of his mind because with the changes and all for the newbies the drills really had no more power so to speak. Some of my buddies that were on the MG team might have known him.
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SSG Gerhard S.
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I used a zip lock bag....
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SSG Gerhard S.
SSG Gerhard S.
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As LRS Teams we didn't overlay our maps due to the issue of compromise, and our maps stayed on our bodies... usually in a cargo pocket, as it was an essential piece of our first line survival kit.(what we carried on our bodies....Comass, map, fire, knife, weapon) 2nd line kit was attached to our LBE/LCE/LBV/Body armor (Ammo/grenades, food, water, light survival kit, something to keep warm, something to keep dry), 3rd line in our Ruck sacks....(everything else).
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