Posted on May 28, 2014
What do you think of Open Carry Texas and other gun groups trying to carry firearm in public places?
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Honestly, I have never had a strong view on carrying firearms in public concealed or not. I own several firearms but don't feel the need to walk around armed even though I do have my conceal license and have been to several shooting course. Weapons are part of my job and I enjoy shooting them, I don't really consider them as a means of home security. But when I see groups like the Open Carry Texas trying to goto restaurants with not only pistols but assault rifles and shotguns a few things go through my mind. First, I see people that are looking for attention which they clearly get, as they act childish and smug when confronted. As soon as someone disagrees with them they throw out the 2nd amendment which was for self protection because our country was at war when it was written so common sense should be applied that carrying weapons is asking for trouble. When I say trouble I am talking about negligent discharges, confrontation, lack of training, and knowledge of weapons. What's the purpose other than causing a scene and getting attention. I love weapons and we should be able to own them but carrying them around in public. I mean there are plenty of countries where it is social acceptable to carry firearms in public, here are just a few: Nigeria, Algeria, Cote d’Ivoire, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Yemen, Sri Lanka, Gaza, Palestinian Territories, Pakistan, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia just to name a few. What do all these places have in common they are really dangerous places, have little to no government, homicide rate is high, economy is terrible. Before we start preaching that we should be able to carry weapons in public areas think about how many safety accidents we have in the military where we train constantly proper weapons safety on a daily basis.
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I am a big supporter of the 2A, I conceal carry my pistol every where I legally can. However, I think the Open Carry Texas group is just out for attention, and what they are doing is completely dumb. They try and justify what they do by saying they are exercising their right, granted that may be the case, they are just out to poke the bear. Why you would need to open carry a rifle is beyond me, leave it in the truck and open carry your pistol.
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SSG (Join to see)
You are not allowed to open carry pistols in TX. That is why they are carrying rifles to try and get the law changed to allow OC pistols. The only pistols you can OC in TX is black powder.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
SSG Schirach makes a good point. The whole purpose is to call attention to the goofiness that you can open carry a rifle, but not a pistol. (That said, see above about being an ass about it.) If I recall, Wisconsin has a similar situation.
Open carry is legal in Washington (the State, that is). You see it occasionally. Depending on the location, you may do a double take or not. Generally a pistol on a hip at the grocery store or gas station, occasionally in a restaurant. This is the proper approach. People see other people - with guns - being all law abiding and normal.
Open carry is legal in Washington (the State, that is). You see it occasionally. Depending on the location, you may do a double take or not. Generally a pistol on a hip at the grocery store or gas station, occasionally in a restaurant. This is the proper approach. People see other people - with guns - being all law abiding and normal.
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SSG (Join to see)
Sir, My understanding is the Open Carry TX released a statement a week ago saying that they would no longer support their members OC rifles. They said it detracts from their overall purpose. They want everyone to switch to OC black powder pistols.
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America can not get rid of, change, or alter the second amendment. Thats just one of the steps of a government take over in my opinion.
Now some of those countries you named are not a fair comparison to the US. Some of them countries you NEED a weapon over there and guns are the least of their problems.
I will always support the second amendment even though I do not own a firearm but I love the feeling of being able to purchase one if I choose to.
Now some of those countries you named are not a fair comparison to the US. Some of them countries you NEED a weapon over there and guns are the least of their problems.
I will always support the second amendment even though I do not own a firearm but I love the feeling of being able to purchase one if I choose to.
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here is a statistic page I found real quick
http://nigeria.opendataforafrica.org/kdabqlc/crime-statistics-murders-with-firearms-and-homicide-rate
http://nigeria.opendataforafrica.org/kdabqlc/crime-statistics-murders-with-firearms-and-homicide-rate
Crime Statistics: Murders with Firearms and Homicide Rate - Open Data for Nigeria
In Honduras, Salvador, Jamaica, Venezuela and Guatemala people have the highest probability to be shot dead. Comparison between homicide by firearms rate and socio-economic indicators shows that the higher income inequality the higher homicide by firearms rate is. Countires where GINI coefficient exceeds 0.45 are at high risk of homicide increase. Gun deaths (number) Homicides by firearm (%) Homicide by firearm rate (per 100,000...
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CPL Charles Gale
I fully support the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I personally believe that law abiding citizens carrying firearms is a good thing. I also respect the rights of corporations as local businesses to choose whether or not someone can carry a firearm on their property. In my opinion there is no difference between a law abiding citizen carrying firearm and a police officer carrying a firearm.
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MAJ (Join to see)
CPL Gale - I agree with everything you said, but the one thing I would add is the right for people to take their kids to a restaurant without me flaunting my gun in front of them.
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CPL Charles Gale
MAJ D., Just like the 1st amendment the 2nd absolutely cannot appease everyone. Everyone has freedom of speech. This means that someone can go into a restaurant full of families and their kids and start yelling and cussing because it is that person's right however, we do have laws that prohibit that kind of disturbance. You can look at the 2nd amendment the same way. If that same man who has a right to carry a firearm, carries it into the a restaurant and starts waving it around then he is breaking the law. As for the right of the people to take their kids to a restaurant and not have law abiding citizen flaunt their guns. That is not their right however, it is their right to choose to go to a different restaurant.
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CPL Charles Gale
I would also like to point out that each an every gun law that is passed is by definition an infringement to the 2nd amendment. We have plenty of laws that make improper use of a firearm illegal. Why do we need laws to restrict the firearm itself? If a criminal wants to conceal carry a firearm thy're not going to fill out the forms to get a license to conceal carry. I could on and on but I sure everyone gets my point.
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