Posted on May 23, 2016
SSG Roger Ayscue
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During my career, We had OG-107s, BDUs, DCU 5 color, DCU 3 color, and ACUs. Of all of these, I LOVED the OG-107s of Vietnam Fame. Along with Jungle Boots (Green Panama Soles, Canvas sides, not Nylon) they were the best uniform EVER. Next I likes Light Weight BDUs, also with Green Jungle Boots. Just like the Army to change what does not need changing...ACUs suck balls..Just saying. What say you?
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LTC Stephen F.
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I selected BDU because that was the last uniform that all military services wore in the filed or in combat and was therefore the most Joint of all military service uniforms SSG Roger Ayscue I thought the OG-107 was the most comfortable uniform especially the "starchable" ones when out in the "field" when they had no starch .
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MAJ L. Nicholas Smith
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It would either be the 107s or BDUs since they seemed pretty durable and did its job in the bush. No Velcro or zippers to wear our and I always sewed buttons back on. Green canvas jungles were the best boot, followed by my Cochrans. We took great pride in our appearance and looked very professional. I could shave in the reflection on my boots.

The chocolate chips should get honorable mention. They seemed heavy and had the extra flap of fabric sewn into the back that I recall hating. I had two sets of the old DCUs in Desert Shield/Storm and it was the only uniforms I had for the duration. Somehow they held up to everything a grunt could offer although the jungle boots eventually fell apart. By the time we returned to prep for our redeployment, I had worn the same thing for nine months. My toes were poking out from the boots and my t-shirts and socks had literally rotted away.

The ACU was garbage. The camo pattern is ineffective yet the Army said, "that's ok, we'll take it!" Even after studies outlined how it was not well suited compared to the other patterns. The Velcro...where to begin. And the stitching and fabric deteriorated so quickly. I don't know how many times I inadvertently...exposed myself. Someone somewhere made money from this deal.
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SFC William Swartz Jr
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Sumer weight BDUs and DCUs were my faves, lightweight and breathable...
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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SSG Roger Ayscue I really liked the OG-107s when I first came in in 1975. I liked the way I could get them heavy starched and stand them up in the corner of my room. They just looked good. and as the starch worn off they were comfortable!
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On the topic of uniform.

The ACU is possibly the most flawed invention I have ever seen. My military career will encapsle the wear date for the ACU in it's entirety. The collar and the excessive velcro aside, I want to go after the so called "camouflage". When I was in Iraq by the Euphrates river, it was like wearing a VS-17 jacket, with mylar suspenders. We could not possibly be more visible, maybe if AR670-1 included mandatory PT-belts.

Some people stand fast with the "it is good for night ops", sure this might be true... but that pro doesn't outweight the plethora of the cons this uniform has. A light foliage green digicam, with bright tan accessories (shirt, boots).. holy crap, it is worthless.

And if this was not enough. If it's operational worthlessness wasn't enough - it looks even worse in garrison. The Army turned into the most sloppy looking service with the ACU - and now the OCP is already here, and some old school morons (like myself) is starching it to look halfway decent.
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CPT Erik Spike Thiesmeyer, Sr.
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Dead on about ACUs. Everyone looks terrible in them, unless you are rucked up and headed out the front gate. It's a terrible design and velcro melts to your skin in a fire! As an aviator, they made us wear A2CUs which had the same cut and design but were made of Nomex. The sleeves snagged on the flight controls! The pants popped circuit breakers! We lost our tabs and rank all the time. And we couldn't roll the sleeves up! (I took it off as soon as the door was closed on the aircraft (C-12). I spent my second tour flying in a tee-shirt and no reflective belt! HA!
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CPT Erik Spike Thiesmeyer, Sr. - I remember the reasoning for having velcro nametape, US ARMY, and rank was to "save the soldier money". Wow was that a failure. Why not have that stitched on permanently since you NEVER change the US ARMY.. very rarely change your name... and more than happy to throw out a few bucks if you get promoted.

This is an example where we had a functioning item (uniform) and changed it severly without any user experience. But even if, the fact that it looks awful in garrison is shameful.
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CPT Erik Spike Thiesmeyer, Sr.
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SGT (Join to see) - Excellent points! And I remember seeing soldiers with totally soiled and stained nametapes and patches because they DIDN'T get cleaned when the ACUs got washed. Dumb!!
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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Minus all the jacked up Velcro, I would say the OCP variant of the ACUs. Cammo worked pretty good in multiple areas. Plus all the pockets we always wanted on BDUs but never got. They really need to get rid of that dumb ass mandarin collar IMO.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
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Yeah that collar sucks.
Remember, 75 pounds of Lightweight Modular equipment is still 75 pounds when you got it on your back. Just because you got a pocket or a pouch or a square inch on a vest does not mean you have to fill it with something.
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I agree....I don't have a problem with the current OCP ACU's with possibly the exception of the arm pockets w/zippers. They are kind of extraneous and I don't know anyone that actually uses them since it would be your arms look bulky.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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I never wore the neck protectors when I wore my IBA and IOTV, so the mandarin collar was never needed.....
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SGT Carl Blas
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MSgt George Cater
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The ERDL pattern Vietnam era slant pocket jungle utilities. (Alternately, the green OG107 version). With the green Panama soled jungle boots sized 1 size bigger to take a set of running shoe insoles that made them feel much like today's $100+ rough out boots. Also always had lacing hooks retrofitted to the boots like the ancient Marine rough outs to enable fast donning even in the dark. Obtained many sets of the cammies after the Corps went to all jungle utes in '76 and through a little known section of Marine uniform regs that said old style uniform wearable til worn out, I wore my last 2 pair through retirement in '93. Had to wear a BDU utility cap tho as there never was an ERDL utility cap. S/F
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CPT Erik Spike Thiesmeyer, Sr.
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The three-color desert BDUs that were issued in about 2003-2005 for deployment. They were very comfortable and depending on your local CSM, you could still roll the sleeves up. There was no silly velcro to wear out and all your scare badges and patches were permanently affixed with a needle and thread. We were even allowed to sew a nametape on the back pocket of the trousers so they'd never get lost in the laundry! What a great idea!

Then some genius came up with ACUs. While I didn't mind the color/pattern, I did mind the cut and fit of the uniform. It was terrible! Tons of sticky velcro everywhere. All those velcro patches and rank now cost 3-5 times as much as sew-on patches. $14 for 1st Cavalry! Plus, you couldn't roll up the sleeves. It had bulky elbow patches and think velcro cuffs that would snag on anything and everything. It wasn't practical to wear at most jobs so the troops simply didn't wear it. Now that's dumb!

When I came in, velcro was a noise hazard! We weren't allowed to have watch bands with velcro or wallets with velcro. In Aviation, we were forbidden from having pin-on rank or badges lest they become FOD in/around the aircraft.

Seems that as time goes on, lessons of the past are forgotten.

And don't even get me started on the loss of the one-piece Nomex flight suit!!!!
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COL Charles Williams
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ACU style was the best, although the UCP was not....
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