Posted on Feb 12, 2018
SGT(P) Satellite Communication Systems Operator/Maintainer
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Okay I am not talking about me by the way. But I was intrigued by the question and I can’t seem to find an answer anywhere. I’d like to know if the mexican government would support the return of the soldier for court martial, how he could be apprehended or if he could even make it to the border anyway. Suppose he is CONUS by the way.
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PO3 Tom Adams
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Desertion followed by a COURT MARTIAL and SUBSEQUENT FIRING SQUAD.
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LCDR William Stevens
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Since it is not "you" but a "friend" hopefully the same thing that happened to evaders and deserters that fled to Canada back in the 60s -70s. Get use to the loss of connection to family and get used to always looking over your shoulder.
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He would be considered a deserter. If he is extradited, he would be executed or spend a long time in Fort Leavenworth.
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SSgt David Marks
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They are considered AWOL until they are gone for 90 days or more, then it's desertion, then it's turned over to the FBI. Then they come and get you/or them wherever you are.
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Sgt Mike Jacobi
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would depend on the political climate at the time and the size of the bribes he could pay.
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SCPO Renato Hidalgo
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The soldier would become an outlaw and would be forced to buy a van and team up with three other individuals to become heroes for hire....but seriously the ex-soldier will be fine in Mexico until he gets busted for whatever reason. It depends on the severity. In the Navy we had one guy fake his death on the Carrier and snuck out to meet his sister in Mexico. If he would have deserted it wouldnt have been a big deal, but because he faked his death to collect the insurance money, NCIS went into Mexico and extradited his dumbass back to the states to face charges.
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1LT Physician Assistant (Pa)
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Not 100% sure on how quickly and effectively said soldier would or could be extradited. However, regardless of official personnel backing in Mexico; people can and will find/report said soldier for the right amount of “motivation”. I lived in Mexico in the past (mind you, I’m Hispanic), and I would never want to go there again. It would also be very difficult to sustain a reasonable life without a steady income, especially when you’re an outsider. It is not safe there, at all...
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SSG Jeremy Sharp
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Processed as a deserter, warrant filed, BCD if/when found and processed.
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SPC Medical Specialist
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Why would anyone flee to Mexico? He'd probably end up in the Mexican military and wish he'd deployed. I would talk to this friend and give him some advice about the consequences.

The first question I would ask is why in the hell did he enlist in the first place. It's not like he was drafted. I've seen questions similar to this on other military sites and I always ask why did you enlist. It's not like you can't find out what it's like to be in the military with all of the information that is available online. Those who went into the service before the internet didn't have that option.

He would be in sorry shape if he fleed to avoid deployment and the shame that would follow when he is caught. Don't they have classes on this prior to any deployment because I'm sure this idea has been pondered by some service members. I'd rather get killed than go to Mexico.
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SPC Byron Skinner
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Sp4 Byron Skinner, This question has become very timely with the call up of National Guardsmen and women to, patrol monitor, man electronic surveillance. In his initial request to the states President Trump said that the guardsmen would not be armed and would aid regular armed border patrol personal but not make arrests. To soldiers this sounded just goofy, soldiers go in armed, period. A picture of Texas national Guard manning an electric listening post said to be along the Texas Mexican border. The Team consisted of four soldiers and an M-1114. THe dish for the listening device is quite apparent in the gunners turret of the Vehicle along with a M-240 with an ammunition belt visible. The other three soldiers two standing dismounted and a third in the drivers position all seemed to be armed with M-4's and on the two dismounts magazines were clearly inserted. The dismounts were clearly wearing combat vests and driver and Guardsman in gun turret were wearing combat helmets. The Texas guard clearly were disregarding what appears to be the Commander and Chiefs policy/orders in the role they were expected to play on the Border. The obvious question is what orders are to be obeyed. What the President of the United States said was policy/orders or what the Guard commander of the formation assigned to the task. Although fire arm violence on the Mexican US border contrary to President Trump is an uncommon event and usual also involved robbery. I could understand the wearing of side arms by troops that are traveling with and assisting ICE officers, that is called self defense and I assume that National Guard Troops have the same weapons qualifications that Regular troops in the same MOS has. That would as it did back in the day qualification with the M-1911 in my day, the M-9 today as part of AIT training for 11B's, 11C's and 11H's. Question would a National Guardsman of Hispanic heritage be justified on a moral basis in refusing to carry a weapon on the US/Mexico border be held for disobeying a direct order that counters what most of American considers an order, what the President says??
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