Posted on Apr 16, 2015
What happens to an ARMY NCO that denies a DA selection to be a Recruiter?
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I have a NCO that just received notice that he was DA selected to be a Recruiter. What will happen if he denies this selection, or can he even deny it? I'm trying to mentor this NCO but being US Navy its somewhat out of my league. I have tried doing some research and continue to hit walls with Valid info.
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Unless things have changed since I left service, if he does not have sufficient service remaining for the assignment, he would have to sign a declination of continued service statement and leave at ETS (unless his branch will work with him). If he does (and his branch won't work with him) then he's going. As an old CSM of mine once said.."That's why they are called orders and not invitations".
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sign a dec statement--- but beware that he will not re-enlist he does.
do the tour, suck it up and drive on. It actually takes leadership to make it in USAREC... have him use it as a test of his capabilities.
do the tour, suck it up and drive on. It actually takes leadership to make it in USAREC... have him use it as a test of his capabilities.
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SFC Charles S.
SFC (Join to see) Exactly, there is a way out but it will leave a mark. I agree, mainly because I did that exact thing. I did the tour Sucked it up and Moved out smartly. While I was out there I did well enough I got my E-7 and went back to my branch when it was done. I like your comment about using it as a test of his capabilities,that is exactly what it is too.
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That is what I have been hearing over and over. Is there an instruction or reference that I can present? I have told him that denial is a career ender but he's in the pissed off at the army phase right now.
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CPO Chad Berry, if your buddy isnt able to draw a conclusion on his best COA from all of our best efforts to help you guide him, then let it go brother. You can lead a horse to water but making him drink could prove to be more than what is necessary. SFC Kenneth Watson said it best-- "....he doesn't seem like SNCO material anyway...." Let it go brother.
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With my time leading this individual, I would not promote him to SNCO at this time, too immature and no tact what so ever. With that being said I made it my mission to provide everything I can to better this individual, but as you said, You can only lead a horse to water, its up to them to drink.
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"I don't want to be a recruiter" is not justification to not accept the assignment. The Army is always short recruiters, calling branch is not going to do the NCO any good. When I was a BN CSM if a NCO was selected for Drill Sergeant, Recruiter, or AIT PSG duty they attended unless they were physically unable (profile). A few were able to decline in lieu of extending or reenlisting to meet time requirement and ended up ETSing.
A few things that will disqualify you from being a recruiter
Too many dependents
Financial hardship (considerable debt)
Serious UCMJ
It's a career progression assignment, I would recommend the NCO takes the assignment.
A few things that will disqualify you from being a recruiter
Too many dependents
Financial hardship (considerable debt)
Serious UCMJ
It's a career progression assignment, I would recommend the NCO takes the assignment.
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I completely understand, however If I were the one selecting personnel for these jobs, this NCO is defiantly not a suitable candidate. I gave him his "wake up call" on his last NCOER giving him a truly honest, none flamboyant Evaluation.
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