Posted on Jul 24, 2014
What has been your biggest roadblock as you transitioned into civilian life?
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I have had a few interviews and been told to my face "oh you are not what I expected". I jokingly replied because I didn't do facing movements coming in and yell good morning sir and ma'am? Answer: Umm yeah. One interviewer even said "we" tend to steer away from "military types" we are a more laid back liberal group. WTF? I am proud to be a Vet and smart enough to think for myself, I never realized it would be considered a hindrance.
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PO1 Eric Corralejo, I'm not sure what companies you interviewed with but I would say they are a minority. Most employers see Veterans as a strong employee to have. We have a track record of working well in both large and small groups with or without supervision. If the company you are interviewing you comes up to you with that excuse, then I would love the chance to talk to them. I've spoken with a lot of companies and I can tell you 99.9999% of them want to hire Veterans.
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When I left the Air Force in 1992, after 10 years, I applied and was accepted to become a Las Vegas Police Officer. The problem with that was the next academy date was a year or more away. In the mean time I had a difficult time getting a job, that would utilize my military experience and feed my family of 4. I was either over qualified or lacked so called real world experience. After a few months a casino security director (USAF Veteran) gave me a chance. I never went to the police academy, stayed in the casino business and for the last 22 years I have been paying it back.
I know it's a little off topic but I think it's important for veterans who are in positions to hire employees to tout the successes of hiring veterans who succeed. Prove that the negative stereotypes are wrong, show that the positive stereotypes are true. I have hired dozens of veterans, some haven't worked out for what ever reason, but the majority have worked and have become very successful.
I know it's a little off topic but I think it's important for veterans who are in positions to hire employees to tout the successes of hiring veterans who succeed. Prove that the negative stereotypes are wrong, show that the positive stereotypes are true. I have hired dozens of veterans, some haven't worked out for what ever reason, but the majority have worked and have become very successful.
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PV2 Louise De Simone
YES!!!! I AGREE! I AM LOCATED NEAR THE BORDER OF NY AND THERE MAY BE CASINO'S HERE. I AM LOOKING FOWARD TO ANY POSITION I CAN HANDLE EITHER SECURITY GUARD AS I AM LICENSED IN N.Y. STATE IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS PLEASE LEAVE MESSAGE ON MY CELL [login to see] THANK YOU.
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PO1 Eric Corralejo Mindset. After spending 23 years in service my mind was not where it needed to fully and properly transition. Maybe it's still not - but life does not wait for you to get your mindset in the proper lane. Listen to the hints given by the interviewers - don't be the poster child for "how NOT to be a military veteran".
My grandfather served - but you'd never know it from his discussions or actions. It was only after I had been in for several years and returned home on leave that he would talk about his service. Be proud, yes. Be boastful, arrogant - not in your best interest. You know what you bring to the table at an interview, but it's far better to not overwhelm those who have never "been there, done that" - especially when they're the ones that might hire you. Show the interviewer you can adapt, adjust, overcome - not how you can destroy, mangle and overwhelm.
My grandfather served - but you'd never know it from his discussions or actions. It was only after I had been in for several years and returned home on leave that he would talk about his service. Be proud, yes. Be boastful, arrogant - not in your best interest. You know what you bring to the table at an interview, but it's far better to not overwhelm those who have never "been there, done that" - especially when they're the ones that might hire you. Show the interviewer you can adapt, adjust, overcome - not how you can destroy, mangle and overwhelm.
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PO1 Eric Corralejo
I have never been a boastful Vet as a Submariner secrecy has all ways been burned into me. I have tried to reword some answers out of the military context but its hard when thats really all you know. I have an Interview on the 6th and hope that my Awesome can out shine my short comings in the civilian sector. Wish me luck.
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When I returned from Vietnam I tried to go to work for the National Weather Service. I was a trained and experienced meteorological observer and could operate the rawinsonde system (weather balloons collecting upper air data). I was told that because of affirmative action, they could not hire me. They were mandated by the feds to hire minorities, even if they were not trained. Then I ran into the problem of being a veteran and public opinion toward Vietnam vets was anything but positive. After two years I was able to get hired by a family friend and worked in the oil field for two years until the oil crunch of 73. That job ended and I finally got a job where veterans were honored, the police department. It took me four years to find my niche and overcome the bias felt toward veterans.
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PV2 Louise De Simone
RE: WILLIAM, I"M STILL FIGHTING THAT I TOO COME FROM THE ERA AND AT A LOSS AT HOW TO CONTINUALLY FIGHT IT I HAVE BEEN REJECTED 2X FOR VET REP IN SCRANTON PA AND HAZELTON SINCE THEY ONLY WANT 'THEIR FRIENDS" AND CORRUPT CRONIES WHO DON'T WANT TO HELP VETS THE LAST WOMAN THAT WAS THER ONLY STAYED JUST AFTER HER PROBATION ENDED AND THAT SCREWED ME, SINCE SHE WAS TOO YOUNG TO HAVE THE POSITION AND NOW THEY LOOKA AT ME CAUSE I'M TOO OLD, WE VETS OF THAT ERA UNDERSTAND TOTALLY HOW THE YOUNGER VETS FEEL BUT IT UPSETS ME TO NO END WHEN A WOMAN GETS THE JOB AND TURNSA AGAINST HER SISTER VETS AGAINST OUR SERVICE TIME AND OUR AGE!!!!!
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Understanding that I had way more maturity and experience at a young age and civvies did not understand or translate that into their viewpoint.
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PO1 Eric Corralejo
I honestly feel like they want someone they can make into what they want (those guys are also usually cheaper). It does fell like because we are soo Mature and Experienced that we are over looked with the assumption that we can or will not adapt.
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It is always hit in miss. You will have companies tell you that they are military supportive, but really aren't. Most companies run on making a profit, so when you interview, show your ability to make that happen. Be confident, barney down, and don't be afraid to clear up any misconceptions about military veterans. The link provided is from Center for American Security. It shows the choke points many employers have when hiring veterans. One major choke point is the hiring managers ability to fully understand individual veterans abilities. Hope this helps. http://www.cnas.org/files/documents/publications/CNAS_EmployingAmericasVeterans_HarrellBerglass.pdf
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The military did NOT talk about benefits, and the V.A. Hospitals my military education was NOT transferable to colleges.
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Honestly, some of my unit leadership have been the biggest roadblock...not very supportive that I am leaving on my own terms.
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purley a mindset problem, the military taught us how to adapt and overcome. I never had a problem getting a job once I got out. I didnt highlight my service, but if I was asked about it I was open and upfront about everything they asked. the only roadblock I encoutered was some of the older guys treating me like a typical kid with no life experience. I ran that roadblock over like an abrams over a prius. civilian life is good.
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At first, it was finding a job.
At my first job, out of the Army, as I recall: My boss even mocked me.
I had/have a 100% s/c disability. I was/am mentally ill; and I had/have a stress disorder.
Now that I have been diagnosed with PTSD, from all of the trauma I have been through: It really can be prohibitive; in the sense that I go into rages, and cry.
At my first job, out of the Army, as I recall: My boss even mocked me.
I had/have a 100% s/c disability. I was/am mentally ill; and I had/have a stress disorder.
Now that I have been diagnosed with PTSD, from all of the trauma I have been through: It really can be prohibitive; in the sense that I go into rages, and cry.
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PO1 Eric Corralejo
I would definitely agree that there is some of that going on. I also feel like while they value our leadership and organization they don't always respect or assign real value to our training in professional areas.
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