Posted on Feb 25, 2015
What if everything bought by federal agencies was required to be made in America?
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With lawmakers pushing once again for all flags used by government agencies to be made in America, do you think it should stop there? I personally believe that anything bought by any government agency should have to be manufactured in the United States. What is your opinion on the matter?
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I'm a supporter, SFC (Join to see). I remember one "Wounded Warrior Day" when I worked at the Pentagon: we all got small flags to wave as the wounded warriors walked (or rolled) through the halls of the Pentagon. Guess where those flags were made. Yep, China. Pitiful. Here we were - Pentagon personnel (military, civilian, contractors) - honoring wounded warriors, and we were waving flags made in China. How ironic. How pitiful. I'm all for the "All-American Flag Act."
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It would make sense to do this, SFC (Join to see). Not only would it keep money within borders, stimulating what there is of the economy, but it could also spur a growth in industry to produce said items.
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
Beer is a domestic product. Almost every major brand is owned by two massive corporations from Europe. Guess where that money is going?
Two years ago Mexico purchased 2,000 metric tonnes of gold. Like oil gold must be purchased with US dollars. The cartels that control gold got all of it and they aren't American.
Two years ago Mexico purchased 2,000 metric tonnes of gold. Like oil gold must be purchased with US dollars. The cartels that control gold got all of it and they aren't American.
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100% agree SFC, we need to make this country the economical powerhouse it used to be and bring manufacturing back to the mainland. Even if we need to buy parts from other countries, we need that American pride back. We need more citizens to be patriotic instead of trash talking this country.
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The Buy American Act of 1933 is still in effect, but has been watered down by amendments and various trade agreements. Too much American industry has been sent to offshore providers. God help us when we have to mobilize for war again.
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The corporations will never allow it. It is profit above all any more and ideals mean nothing.
Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of General Electric once described GE as a raft that gets floated to wherever profit will be highest. A few years ago GE moved the manufacturing of MRI and X-Ray machines to Europe. At the time Immelt was the Chair of Obama's job creation committee.
Frequently the word Fascism is thrown around to describe any political agenda that deprives the people of liberty. The real meaning is the relationship of business and the political system.
The word comes from the Roman Ax. An ax head at the top of a bundle of sticks representing a group being used to wield the ax(sword) of teh state. It's called a fascisti. It was the symbol of Mussoini's Romanticist political party which was going to return Italy to its empire status. It was financed by Italian business.
Likewise the German National Socialists. Financed by Speer, Thyssen, Krupp, Porsche, Bayer and many other corporations. It too had the goal of restoring German power. The corporations were only interested in keeping the Communists out because they feared nationalization.
In both cases the corporations thought they could control the political movement.
Here in the US they are controlling everything. They own the Congress and even the Presidency. They finance whatever government will produce the most profit. So much of our manufacturing is now overseas that it is now almost impossible to find many products that aren't. That little timer in a toaster oven comes from China. Two years ago millions of them failed. I know because mine did. I wanted to just change the part and could not find one anywhere. That's when I found the complaints. This timer was used in almost every brand of toaster oven on the market. I found a Chinese manufacturer's website that was selling them. For as little as 10,000 units you could buy that timer for 30 cents. Where was our government that should have been filing a lawsuit or banning this manufacturer's product? Nowhere, because GE was the largest "manufacturer" of these toaster ovens.
A few years ago there a stink over the new berets the Army had started wearing. They were produced in China. Millions were junked and replaced only because citizens got worked up by it. Olympic contestant uniforms are made overseas. Soon you can expect the firearms you depend on to come from overseas too. Oh wait! Isn't Barretta an Italian company. The guns you use are made here but the money goes to Europe. Meanwhile COLT is in bankruptcy again.
Your little flags are just a drop in the bucket. Many years ago the CEO of GM said that what's good for American business is good for America. I wonder what he'd say to that today.
Our military is being ground into dust by constant warfare. People returning home broken by nonstop deployments, families destroyed. The increasing size of the VA cannot care for them all no matter how much money it gets. But GM, Boeing, United Technologies, drug manufacturers and other corporations have a great bottom line. Taxpayers are subsidizing Walmart's and McDonald's employees with SNAP, Section 8 and Medicaid but their bottom lines are great.
This is Fascism.
Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of General Electric once described GE as a raft that gets floated to wherever profit will be highest. A few years ago GE moved the manufacturing of MRI and X-Ray machines to Europe. At the time Immelt was the Chair of Obama's job creation committee.
Frequently the word Fascism is thrown around to describe any political agenda that deprives the people of liberty. The real meaning is the relationship of business and the political system.
The word comes from the Roman Ax. An ax head at the top of a bundle of sticks representing a group being used to wield the ax(sword) of teh state. It's called a fascisti. It was the symbol of Mussoini's Romanticist political party which was going to return Italy to its empire status. It was financed by Italian business.
Likewise the German National Socialists. Financed by Speer, Thyssen, Krupp, Porsche, Bayer and many other corporations. It too had the goal of restoring German power. The corporations were only interested in keeping the Communists out because they feared nationalization.
In both cases the corporations thought they could control the political movement.
Here in the US they are controlling everything. They own the Congress and even the Presidency. They finance whatever government will produce the most profit. So much of our manufacturing is now overseas that it is now almost impossible to find many products that aren't. That little timer in a toaster oven comes from China. Two years ago millions of them failed. I know because mine did. I wanted to just change the part and could not find one anywhere. That's when I found the complaints. This timer was used in almost every brand of toaster oven on the market. I found a Chinese manufacturer's website that was selling them. For as little as 10,000 units you could buy that timer for 30 cents. Where was our government that should have been filing a lawsuit or banning this manufacturer's product? Nowhere, because GE was the largest "manufacturer" of these toaster ovens.
A few years ago there a stink over the new berets the Army had started wearing. They were produced in China. Millions were junked and replaced only because citizens got worked up by it. Olympic contestant uniforms are made overseas. Soon you can expect the firearms you depend on to come from overseas too. Oh wait! Isn't Barretta an Italian company. The guns you use are made here but the money goes to Europe. Meanwhile COLT is in bankruptcy again.
Your little flags are just a drop in the bucket. Many years ago the CEO of GM said that what's good for American business is good for America. I wonder what he'd say to that today.
Our military is being ground into dust by constant warfare. People returning home broken by nonstop deployments, families destroyed. The increasing size of the VA cannot care for them all no matter how much money it gets. But GM, Boeing, United Technologies, drug manufacturers and other corporations have a great bottom line. Taxpayers are subsidizing Walmart's and McDonald's employees with SNAP, Section 8 and Medicaid but their bottom lines are great.
This is Fascism.
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SFC (Join to see) Agree 125% about the American Flags we fly. The economy is so screwed up, let's take baby steps to get back to "everything" the government buys. De Oppresso Liber.:-))
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It's a nice idea, i guess. But it's completely unrealistic. Our government couldn't afford it. Asian countries make better electronics than we do, and they do it cheaper, too. I'm referencing an article I read over at TI. I'll link it if I can find a copy online.
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
They make better electronics because their countries subsidized their industries and undercut the pricing in the US. No televisions have been produced in the US for over two decades. Jobs took the manufacturing of its smart phones to China because it could be done cheaper. The sale price versus manufacturing costs are over 100%. The low wages and forced hours have caused the manufacturer's employees to commit suicide.
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PO2 Robert Cuminale
PO1 (Verify To See) - As Ronald Reagan said, "Government is not the solution. Government is the problem."
I had a customer years ago who was charging large institutions to haul away their old computers after an upgrade. An astounding amount of it was new unused stuff. He would haul it to his shop and break it all down selling the plastic cases to a company that ground it into pellets that could be remolded into new products. Another company bought all the mother boards and Ethernet cards and stripped out he precious metals. Those old monitors had as much as 7lbs of lead shielding the CRT.
As an idea of the money made he charged one hospital $22 a piece to haul away 1700 computers and monitor sets. He told me he made three times as much selling off the parts. Even telephone cords have 50mil coatings of gold on the contacts.
Have you ever seen a junk yard go broke?
I had a customer years ago who was charging large institutions to haul away their old computers after an upgrade. An astounding amount of it was new unused stuff. He would haul it to his shop and break it all down selling the plastic cases to a company that ground it into pellets that could be remolded into new products. Another company bought all the mother boards and Ethernet cards and stripped out he precious metals. Those old monitors had as much as 7lbs of lead shielding the CRT.
As an idea of the money made he charged one hospital $22 a piece to haul away 1700 computers and monitor sets. He told me he made three times as much selling off the parts. Even telephone cords have 50mil coatings of gold on the contacts.
Have you ever seen a junk yard go broke?
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