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I am asking this because I was on the VA website and saw where it has me listed as having PTSD, but have it down as non-combat related since it stems from SGT Akbar (AKA Mark Kools) killing at least 2 and wounding 12-14 soldiers/officers at camp Pennsylvania before we went into Iraq. I know we weren't techniquely in combat yet since we were in Kuwait & not Iraq, but he was fighting against us so I would think that would make it combat related. What are your thoughts?
Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF)
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Friendly Fire
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I was at that camp in 03. He did what he did because he did not believe in the invasion and did not want to attack/kill fellow Muslims. PTSD had nothing to do with his reasons. He told his CoC he didn't want to deploy so instead of missing movement he chose to deploy and kill his fellow soldiers. Humanity has lived with PTSD since the beginning of creation. Why now is it such a big deal? Is it because medical professionals can't prove a person has it and its a free percentage on VA claims? Is it because people think its cool? Explain how a non combat arms soldier that never left the wire can claim PTSD when they redeploy stateside? When all they did was work in a S shop or some POG ass job that only required shift work? That's the real question. That jackass in 03 was just a...never mind he isn't worth the words. His actions weren't related to PTSD. Combat related to me as a Infantryman is direct or non direct contact with an enemy force. If injured by a mortar attack on a COP/JSS/FOB that is non direct contact and is combat related. Being attacked via VBIED/HBIED/IED/EFP, shot at, mortared, grenaded, or having a bird crash due to direct fire is combat related PERIOD. If a soldier gets deployed and claims any injury mental or physical that was not in direct or non direct contact with an enemy combatant his/her claim is NOT combat related. That's just this Infantryman's opinion, but what do I know...I'm just a trigger puller!
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SPC James Seigars
SSG Eric Temple I didn't say he had PTSD, I said the VA claims I have it (0%) and that is non combat related due to his not being a recognized enemy combatant. He did shoot at me and barely missed twice after killing a friend as well as another person and wounding several others as you know. As far as having a POG job as you put it (being I was in supply) know this: I was in two Infantry companies in 2/327 IN and I did the training they did including road marchs and competing for the EIB (even though I couldn't wear it) I did the course along with my SSG at 2:56 out of 3:00 total time allowed. At least 12 Infantry didn't make it that day. As far as the deployment went I was transfered and promoted in theatre & went out of the FOB every other day taking ground supplies to my troops and had my Supply Asst go on the air drops on the days I stayed back. Just FYI.
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SSG (Join to see)
All 11Bs get told to go out for EIB which is supposed to be 100% voluntary. The ones that do earn it are the ones that actually want it. The reason EIB isn't what it once was is due to the OPTEMPO the last 13 years. For example. I being a new private in 2000 was going through the initial train up week for EIB. Day 3 the Sept 11th tragedy occurred and EIB was canceled. We all got put on gate guard and did roving patrols. I PCS'd to FT Campbell where we left 8 months later to invade Iraq. Skip forward to 2015 and that was the second time I was able to go through EIB. When asked if I wanted to go out for it I refused. Simply because for the last 13 years everything was combat focused and absolutely zero emphasis was put on EIB. Since all focus was on everything but EIB and every command that talked about trying to fit it in declined to actually make it happen most 11B's don't give a hoot about a EIB therefore don't care about getting it. It is sad but true. We with CIB's look at it like this...1 badge says we can do a task to standard in a certain time frame and 1 badge states we can do our job in combat. Granted there for a while the CIB was a blanket award.
As for the POG comment, please don't take it to heart. I am just a dumb 11B. We all wear the same uniform and have a certain job to do on the same team. This tool, Manning and Major/Inmate Dumbass are all POG's (Piece Of Garbage). I use that term derogatory in their regards. All other none 11 series are POG's (Person Other then Grunt) but that term is used in reference to them in a friendly rivalry.
As for the POG comment, please don't take it to heart. I am just a dumb 11B. We all wear the same uniform and have a certain job to do on the same team. This tool, Manning and Major/Inmate Dumbass are all POG's (Piece Of Garbage). I use that term derogatory in their regards. All other none 11 series are POG's (Person Other then Grunt) but that term is used in reference to them in a friendly rivalry.
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You were in CENTCOM AOR and came under attack. Had I been your treating doctor, I would have listed this as a combat-related injury
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SPC James Seigars
That is exactly what I thought it was as well, MSG Alfred Aguilar, but apparently the VA disagrees.
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The problem is what is classified as combat because I'd have to say there's no doubt that you were in it.
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You don't need to worry about the classification of PTSD as combat or non combat related, because Soldiers come from all types of pre military situation where they suffered from PTSD prior to entry. Certain things experienced in the military because of your expectations to perform under elevated stress levels can cause a relapse or intensification of symptoms.
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Byron Skinner 11ACR Vietnam 1966.
A Purple Heart, and unable to return to duty.The owie Purple Bleeder for a minor wound such as shrapnel or a grazing bullet wound is not a reason for combat related. The guy/gal missing a body part, internal organ and will have infection and pain issues the rest of his or her life is Combat Related. Irony is the VA usually give that veterans the short end of the stick.
A Purple Heart, and unable to return to duty.The owie Purple Bleeder for a minor wound such as shrapnel or a grazing bullet wound is not a reason for combat related. The guy/gal missing a body part, internal organ and will have infection and pain issues the rest of his or her life is Combat Related. Irony is the VA usually give that veterans the short end of the stick.
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Not combat related. To be combat related it must be against a declared enemy combatant. Just an opinion.
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SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson
At the same time the actions he took declared him an enemy combatant. The fact he has to be "declared" beforehand is ludicrous. Times have changed. The enemy can be anyone, anytime and anywhere. It's time the government caught up to that.
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This is really tough for me, for although I spent 16 months in RVN, I never was in combat. I was in a medical company. We did our job and I think the job was a benefit to the military mission. So the base got its ammo dump blew up, and some shrapnel fell on us, but there was no great danger. A friend of mine who was in Korea and has some medals including a bronze star with V was on a ship but never saw actual combat as I understand it . . . getting shot at or shooting at someone. I don't think I was in a combat zone.
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Yep... combat... also....IMHO if you are in theater operating outside the wire in a yellow/red area where (say OEF) the enemy is not denied movement in areas and thoses areas are outside the control of IRoA, your in an a bad place! (Bad for them). If you are in a tactical movement / GAC behind a RCP/BUFFALO everday welcome to the club!!! Ps, not me... but close.
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Damn I remember that. I was at Coyote waiting for the go. Didn't they at least list it as service connected? The combat related nomenclature shouldn't really make a difference? Good luck on your claim.
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SPC James Seigars
SGT Kevin Smith they have it listed, so I am guessing that would mean they consider it service related. Not sure though.
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SPC Michelle Nelson - Thompson
You may want to double check that. They list everything but there is an area that states service or non service related. Most definitely it falls under service related but it needs to reflect that in your records.
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SPC James Seigars you stated VA lists it as noncombat related at 0%.
That means you have a diagnosis for PTSD, VA determined it is service connected, and VA rated it as 0% disabling.
That means you have a diagnosis for PTSD, VA determined it is service connected, and VA rated it as 0% disabling.
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