Posted on Oct 27, 2015
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How many times have you been kept at work or kept someone at work even if there was no work being done?
Additionally what do you think about troops being kept late because the training meeting was still going on or someone decided to do something that day at the last minute? Do most supervisors even take into consideration giving their people a reliable schedule?
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Cpl Tou Lee Yang
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Oh, that's part of the daily routine as I recalled it, during my time in the service. You don't prepare to leave once 1630 rolls around. Because there's always one BS coming up during afternoon formation and that BS is that something came up during the afternoon and the OIC or the SNCOIC forgot to mention that it needed to be complete before we secured for the day.
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SPC George Rudenko
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I think what gets me, is enlisted used for menial stupid stuff that used to be done by a civilian corps (contractors) but now the wording of said contracts is so specific, those contractors now argue they can't do it. Ugh
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MSG Michael Murphy
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I always released troops, Senior NCOS and Officers were the only ones Required at Training, and or any other pertinent meetings to insure the Units primary Mission. Dissemination of information through the chain of command.
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MSgt Daniel Attilio
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Comes with the territory. I remember putting in ridiculous amount of hours for this or that, waiting for the "word" and wondering what we were waiting for? If there was a schedule it was never considered binding - Semper Gumby. I did my best not to hold my people but it was never my call to do so. There was bigger picture stuff that I had no control over and that bigger picture stuff never meant anything to me when I was the one waiting and wondering in my younger days.
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Capt Retired
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I recall a day when the weather was much less than desireable. Travel was dangerous. Our Colonel came into the office at 1655 (quitting time was 1700) and said it was okay if we left early due to the weather conditions.

We all looked at him and said we would wait until quitting time.
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SPC Nathan Freeman
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I remember being kept until 2300 almost every night because they didn't want to send some people home before others (even though we couldn't help them). Later it became mandatory that we got released at 1700. There were a lot of wives who thought their husbands were cheating on them and they started calling up the chain of command to verify their husbands were actually at work.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Mostly? Low attrition rates and a poor branch/unit reputation.
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SPC Andrew Craig
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man i'm gonna show my age here but here we go, i think troops are a bit too spoiled in that way. when i joined, we mowed the post's lawns,cleaned the gym,post headquarters,etc etc etc. gotta keep busy. we are on the tax payer's dime and that should be productive. now all of that should not be done at the expense of training for war, but in garrison we have a responsibility individually to earn our paychecks. even back then i always felt guilty when "shamming" as i realized my mom and dad,aunts,uncles, etc were paying my paycheck.
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