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I'm currently in 35F AIT and I'm trying to get a better picture of the life of a fox in various units. While I have a good knowledge of a fox's responsibilities in an S-2 shop, I'm trying to find out more about other units and levels a fox can find oneself working in.
Specifically, I'm wondering about the life of a 35F in a company/troop Intelligence support team or military intelligence company.
Do these positions offer more tactical opportunities? (away from a desk/out in the field) Do these positions differ between different maneuver units? (Infantry vs Cav?) What tasks would I be expected to carry out?
I'm trying to put together a more complete picture of those units so (if I ever get to have any control over my assignments) I can try for a unit with more tactical opportunities or positions that broaden my skillsets.
Specifically, I'm wondering about the life of a 35F in a company/troop Intelligence support team or military intelligence company.
Do these positions offer more tactical opportunities? (away from a desk/out in the field) Do these positions differ between different maneuver units? (Infantry vs Cav?) What tasks would I be expected to carry out?
I'm trying to put together a more complete picture of those units so (if I ever get to have any control over my assignments) I can try for a unit with more tactical opportunities or positions that broaden my skillsets.
Posted 6 y ago
Responses: 4
If they put you on a CoIST, they have wasted you. CoISTs are supposed to be made up of guys from the unit, not intel guys. Maneuver folks with a bit of intel training.
Honestly, take whatever assignment you get and learn to do it well. 35F is such a broad MOS that the possibilities are too many to name. There are three basic realms for a Fox. Tactical, strategic, and TRADOC. Try to rotate back and forth between tactical and strategic or TRADOC. - tac/strat/tac/TRADOC/tac kind of thing. Once you have done a couple years at your first assignment, ask one of the more senior NCOs around you what you should be looking for next. There aee advantages and disadvantages to starting at a strat assignment. There are advantages and disadvantages to starting at a tactical assignment. Neither is really better, balance is the key.
Honestly, take whatever assignment you get and learn to do it well. 35F is such a broad MOS that the possibilities are too many to name. There are three basic realms for a Fox. Tactical, strategic, and TRADOC. Try to rotate back and forth between tactical and strategic or TRADOC. - tac/strat/tac/TRADOC/tac kind of thing. Once you have done a couple years at your first assignment, ask one of the more senior NCOs around you what you should be looking for next. There aee advantages and disadvantages to starting at a strat assignment. There are advantages and disadvantages to starting at a tactical assignment. Neither is really better, balance is the key.
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SPC Ted Ronayne
Thank you for the advice! I just know that a CoIST is supposed to have at least 2 analysts (who are 35F) for information analysis. I actually find it quite an interesting responsibility. I suppose it might be a "waste" but I think analysts at such a level could do a lot of good for a company sized element without an s-2.
I will look for balance to be sure. Thank you for the advice!
I will look for balance to be sure. Thank you for the advice!
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I dont think CoIST is even a thing anymore. The CoIST program was for maneuver units to take some smart people and give them a program (Tigernet) that allowed them to post sigact to conduct their own analysis. I dont think it is being used anymore.
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SSG Skip Ledbetter so the CoIST used to be a high speed 11B SPC that pretty much just input data into tiger net. It was an additional duty, there was no MTOE for anyone in the CoIST of an Infantry company. Has the intel community taken the program back and filled it with 35 series? What unit formations are MTOEd them and what units do they support?
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SSG Skip Ledbetter interesting, inbedding a 35 series is better than handing a laptop to a SPC and seeing what happens.
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SSG Skip Ledbetter how long ago was this, if I could ask. I was just promoted into the COIST PSG slot for D Co 876 ENG 2IBCT/28ID. While I am aware of how the COIST Is supposed to work by regs, my training( outside of normal Intel duties) have included a lot of TSE ( EX: my state has my platoon, as well as some of our 35Ms go to the morgue every quarter to learn how to process fingerprints for identification ,pull fluids out of cadavers etc). Do you think that training may differentiate based on type of unit( ABCT v IBCT) and or deployment and training schedule?
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This is a broad answer to cover your bases:
35F’s are supposed to be moved around as to help broaden your “skill sets” so that work is done for you. You can go ANYWHERE because of your S2 operability. 35F careers differ the most out of Army MOSs because of the job variety.
In a BCT a Fox could be transferred up to 3 times in 3 years if not more.
Yes infantry/CAV/Arty/Engineer all differ in job responsibility for fox’s.
Your job is to handle arbitrary tasks in garrison and then war game at the TOC during operations (for S2).
MICO is much different, lots of TDY training, lots of fielding, motor pool cleaning for garrison and field training and BISE operations at high echelon TOC down range. If your in COIST your useless, they put your in another S2 shop with other fox’s that are supposed to already be doing what you are.
Therefore:
As a fox be ready and willing to move often. Your responsibility is to know everything about anything that is the enemy in order to provide the best possible intelligence to commanders and customers.
35F’s are supposed to be moved around as to help broaden your “skill sets” so that work is done for you. You can go ANYWHERE because of your S2 operability. 35F careers differ the most out of Army MOSs because of the job variety.
In a BCT a Fox could be transferred up to 3 times in 3 years if not more.
Yes infantry/CAV/Arty/Engineer all differ in job responsibility for fox’s.
Your job is to handle arbitrary tasks in garrison and then war game at the TOC during operations (for S2).
MICO is much different, lots of TDY training, lots of fielding, motor pool cleaning for garrison and field training and BISE operations at high echelon TOC down range. If your in COIST your useless, they put your in another S2 shop with other fox’s that are supposed to already be doing what you are.
Therefore:
As a fox be ready and willing to move often. Your responsibility is to know everything about anything that is the enemy in order to provide the best possible intelligence to commanders and customers.
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